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  1. #61
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    Farah Malone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I'd much prefer actually playing the game to get it as opposed to just buying it. Just buying it isn't nearly as fun or engaging.
    I think that's my main issue with vanity DLC in general. At a point, you may as well just have a free to play doll up game with all the fancy clothes as DLC. You know, like Maple Story.
    But whatever, I don't want to ramble.
    I don't understand everyone wanting items in the cash shop either. I'd rather earn it somehow in the game then just forking out $5-$10 for something. Plus, why does anyone want to pay MORE money when we already give them $15 a month for a sub. I play games for the pretty vanity, and I hate seeing everything stuck behind a pay wall. I even stopped playing for a while after they started that since it disgusted me. Only started playing again after 6 months of un-sub cause my friends begged me to come back to the static party.

    Anyway, I feel like only certain items should be exclusive. Items like clothing that was just around in 1.0 that has no real significance, not sure why people are laying claim to it. It should be able to be made again. Event items I think it depends on the event, but the events could be redone in 2.0 with a same reward or recolor.only thing legacy people have claim to is their tattoo and their chocobo. Everything else should be free game as long as it is introduced into ARR appropriately.
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  2. #62
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I'd much prefer actually playing the game to get it as opposed to just buying it. Just buying it isn't nearly as fun or engaging.
    I think that's my main issue with vanity DLC in general. At a point, you may as well just have a free to play doll up game with all the fancy clothes as DLC. You know, like Maple Story.
    But whatever, I don't want to ramble.
    We're running out of moons to cause us trouble, you know.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    We're running out of moons to cause us trouble, you know.
    Wouldn't have to be the moon.
    Any large spherical earning with a bit of flourish could work.

    Like, make it Levi and a black pearl or something.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    the event for the moonlet earring was still within the 15 months long "extended free month". Sub didn't start before january 2012.
    Yeah, before I had a computer that could handle FFXIV 1.0's derpyness, after I didn't, so it was either lag horribly and not be able to really even do anything because of said lag, or wait for 2.0 (least now I built my own PC so I can enjoy the game in max settings, now waiting for higher textures because the ones we have are... Not good, is the politest thing I can say about them I guess).
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  5. #65
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    I'm of the opinion that exclusive things should remain exclusive, that special event items whether from 1.0 or 2.0 should be left in the past and let the devs concentrate on new special event content to add to the game over time, and that definitely any items that were a part of the legacy campaign or any official campaign or contest or purchase or whatever should be left alone as well, though SE does have the right to do what they want within their game whether I or anyone else disagrees with it or not. They don't owe anyone anything. But I just really don't like the phrase "you don't deserve it".

    Not a legacy, but I have been around for some of the 2.0 special events and not to devalue the time and effort that players put into obtaining the exclusives from events like those but what exactly did we do to get those items? Tagged a couple npcs and downed a few fates. And granted that I had to rush my way to 45 so I could complete the Lightning quests, gained a few levels, tagged a couple npcs and downed a few fates. Things that players do in this game every day, with the exception that they aren't able to earn exclusive rewards for it now. You got it in 1.0? Good, now think about what exactly you had to do to get that item (fate, instanced dungeon, questline or whatever), and then consider how available that activity is today, and add to your list that you happened to enjoy a game enough to stick around and play it despite the many faults it had. There's nobody here who "deserve" things anymore than the next person does, you were just lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time to get it.
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  6. #66
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    When you pay for a failing game, resulting in the developers rewarding you for helping them in their time of need, the ego tends to enlarge a little when the subject is brought up.
    It's not so much about killing something or other in an event some time 4 years ago. It was more of the fact that without legacy players support, the game wouldn't continue to exist at all.

    That being said, the earring in question isn't regarding the legacy campaign at all.
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  7. #67
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    Shade Hikari
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    Moonlet was one of the few items I got for playing the bad game. Please just let me have my few shinies for subbing when the game was awful. Maybe you'll get garbage for playing before HW and you can show off to the plebs of the future.
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    XI - Darkshade - Shiva
    XIV - Shade Highwind - Figaro

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  9. #68
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Why yes, I AM a special little snowflake!
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  10. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    It's not so much about killing something or other in an event some time 4 years ago. It was more of the fact that without legacy players support, the game wouldn't continue to exist at all.
    This is a little off topic, but yes, ARR would be here without legacy support. The campaign itself was announced after ARR was revealed. It wasn't an instance of SE raising enough money from legacy players to make the game. It was an instance of SE deciding to remake the game and working on the game before they started charging anyone a dime. If anything, ARR can be attributed to the fact that SE is a big enough company to fund an entire remake and them wanting a next gen MMO on the market. Legacy money more than likely went toward to continued development of 1.0 as they had already been working on ARR for year or so before they started charging folks and there were many substantial patches and changes to 1.0(~ 1.23 etc) made during that time.
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    Last edited by Omegakiyohime; 03-29-2015 at 04:23 AM.

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    Quesse Mithril
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmeron View Post
    I was too poor to afford to subscribe when 1.0 was out (although I got the game as a present, so I played it for 30 days)... Now I'm old enough to work, why should I be punished
    Punished?? The punishment was playing 1.0 lol

    The people who have Legacy, Moon Earrings, Gobbues etc. MORE than earned them. That is a fact. You have no idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime View Post
    This is a little off topic, but yes, ARR would be here without legacy support.
    Semantics. The fact is when 1.0 went subscription, if no one had paid, it would have died. 2.0 only exists because of those who decided to sub to 1.0 - Legacy or not.
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