Quote Originally Posted by Ardan View Post
If you're a former SMN main, why even bother continuing to post about SMN anymore? Stop making up facts to further your arguments. People still play the job and that's a fact. It's far from worthless in endgame. Is it optimal? No. You want worthless? Go back to WAR 2.0. That crap warranted the massive buffs it deserved in 2.1.

And again, stop comparing past iterations from turn-based RPGs. They do not translate well into online action RPGs where balance must be kept. This argument can be made to any job in any FF.
The single player turn based RPGS is the resource material for all classes/jobs SE took the jobs form turned based rpgs and adapted them to an MMORPG format so don't give me that bs on about a the turn base iteration of the Summoner won't translate well. The DoT iteration of the Summoner is poorly optimized for this game while the traditional iteration of the Summoner fits perfectly. The arguments I made aren't made up they brute facts every since 2.4 the Summoner population has been decimated they either went Ninja, Healer or Black Mage because they are much more satisfying jobs. The Summoner has nothing and its painfully obvious that it's time for SE to return Summoner to its roots as a AoE Bursts Specialist with Average Single Target Bursts it's time to bring back the spiritual element to the Summoner by replacing there Arcanist abilities with Elementalist abilities. After the most recent buff most of the player base will agree that Summoner and Scholar should no longer share the same Base Class and the Summoner should be separated from the Arcanists The only people who keep saying Summoner is fine and doesn't need to change are the people that want to feel like a special snowflake and be one of the few that still uses Summoner.

Ardan I bet you'll be happy if you were the only person still playing Summoner even after everyone else has switched to the Dark Knight, Machinist or Astrologian since they will have a much more interesting play style then the Summoner. The Ninja already decimated the Summoner population the new jobs will put the Summoner in its eternal resting place.