The problem with Summoners

[Roshidon1]

Completely disagree to suggestions of wearing a summon like a suit of armour - people need to stop imagining this, it wont work and it does not fit the theme for the summoner at all.

Of course this is your opinion. I do like your idea however.

[Sanguisio]

Sorry I also disagree with the armor idea, points for originality though

They need to make it so switching pets isn't detrimental to SMNs, or allow a SMN to crossclass skills from the pet or something. There is no reason contagion or anything else that might be released should be the sole reason you have to gimp your DPS to have.

[Akiza]

The standard bearers for the Summoner are Rydia and Yuna and if a Summoner doesn't meet those standards then they're not a Summoner. This is the only game where the Summoner is a DoT poisoning Mage which doesn't fit with the theme of the Summoner. The Summoner was a Black Mage with a emphasis on Summoner with a bit of White Mage abilities. A White Mage DPS with an emphasis on Summoner. A Time Mage with an empasis on Summoner or a Elementalist with an emphasis on Summoner. All of those Summoners have in common Direct Damage, High Bursts and AoE Bursts. Rydia and Yuna make the Final Fantasy XIV Summoner look like a steaming pile of shit.

[Nym-Phox]

I have to agree with the awkward dot-mage vibe when playing as a summoner ;_;.

I really would like to see a rework of the summoner class as a whole. The class is interesting, and perhaps it could be handed over to scholars as is and break it off as a whole, but it just doesn't feel like a summoner to me.

I'd like to see a standard casting rotation mixed with a short cooldown summon use. Need that extra healing? Summon carbuncle for a small heal, maybe even small buff. Need AoE? Summon Ifrit who uses hellfire like in some of the older FF titles. Quick single target attack, perhaps Ramuh appears and unleashes a bolt. Something of the sort. I guess a good reference would be the special attacks in FFXI, but quick and temporary such that we don't see complains from other classes on "I can't see around this fat freaking primal in my way."

That was the class I was originally hoping for. The egi's, while an interesting idea... I just feel are so lackluster and unappealing to me.

[Nym-Phox]

Char. limit previously.

But I did want to say that the armor idea was certainly an interesting one. I'm mixed on it, but I feel it could be interesting if done right!

And I really would like to see a nice incentive to swap pets.

[Sanguisio]

Ifrit is pretty good already, if contagion was swapped over, no one would ever use garuda.

Can't make titan better than actual tanks, would just be unfair.

[Vallhallix]

They don't have to make Titan a super tank, I would settle for giving them better utility equal to Garuda's.

[Iromi]

I hope so much that in 3.0 they give us contagion instead of linking it to garuda and get rid of or fix Tri Disaster >.< Also fix the pet AI...Ifrit dies so much..D:

Am very interested to see what role Leviathan/Ramuh/Shiva (if they putting her in) will have

[AreeyaJaidee]

... Can't make titan better than actual tanks, would just be unfair.

Ifrit's Radiant Shield needs to be changed to a utility ability that either gives him a str boost for x seconds or dmg received reduction.

Why can't Titan be buffed? You said to not make him "better " than actual tanks. First off he's not even as good as an actual tank. Secondly he's an actual tank... A small buff to put him on par with pld and war wouldn't invalidate pld and war, it would just create additional possibilities within already existing content and future content.

Titan will never outperform player tanks... Because in the end is just a simple ai controlled pet that can make player tanks life easier if desired.

Also I agree with most smn that Garuda's contagion needs to be a smn ability and give garuda a magic based self buff or other sorry buff that causes all aoe dmg she does to inflict a dot.

[Sanguisio]

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Why does ifrit need another utility, he stuns and does great dmg, 2xcrit chances compared to garuda and he benefits from DPS class debuffs e.g. WAR. Yeah I would like them to buff the pets immensely but even though its called SMN, I have given up on them even trying to make it a pet based class.

Titan egi is fine to tank with, too many people try to just SMN him with VIT accs which means you are gimping his emnity generation. So far i've tanked all of the primals with him (ramuh pre update) and did just fine with the normal party compo minus the tank. The only primal is havent managed successfully tank is Shiva, ifrit ex, Ramuh post update, havent tried SCOB or FCOB yet. For a SMN pet that is pretty ridiculous. It would be nice if he had a provoke, AOE skill, or more def CDs. But if he becomes too good, you are gonna piss off part of the player base unnecessarily.

It's a nice idea, but a grp are unlikely to take a SMN who is going to use Titan to alleviate some stress/pressure unless it means dropping an actual tank to bring another DPS. You either have titan good enough to replace a tank, able to pick up adds in midst of a fight which also means dealing with summoning MP issues, or he is not going to be worth it.

Garuda needs a buff full stop, she is weak.