Why bring MNK to anything anymore?

[ExiaQuanta]

Would much prefer the dragon kick debuff than a dmg buff. Cant do dps if you died from an unmitigated and undebuffed gigaflare.

[AniCelestine]

Parse naked with lvl 1 weapon, I'd like to see the results from mnk's, nin's and drg's.

Also, yeah, when you and your party is 130 you don't need mnk for mitigation purposes, so it's useless, but, since you're 130 why would you bother with changing the mnk to other dps class, if you won't have any problems with dps with the gear you have.

[FoxyAreku]

Still highest DPS of all classes.
Dragon Kick for lowering the damage the raid takes from large magic hits.
Mantra.

You may just be bad, I dunno.

[Ephier]

Would much prefer the dragon kick debuff than a dmg buff. Cant do dps if you died from an unmitigated and undebuffed gigaflare.

You do not need dragon kick to survive giga, nor did you ever unless your HP was really low. All you need is soil + succor.

[Akiza]

Because Summoner sucks and there are still 3 Melee spots to fill

[Kuroyasha]

Because Summoner sucks and there are still 3 Melee spots to fill

Idk why i laughed at this so hard

[Zenaku]

Monk is the highest single-target dps, regardless of item level. If your whole team was i600 Monk would still top the parse on 1 target.

Pretty sure SMN would be top dps even with shit mp issue at ilvl600 lmao. Monk is good but not that good ahaha

[Zenaku]

Because Summoner sucks and there are still 3 Melee spots to fill

LMAO you know in a world of mmo being king does not last long Sadly smn fail to keep up. With the new style of raid for the new coil i pretty much blame SE. Why make every single gear spell speed when you know SMN can't use any of it. Top of that why make the new coil without any time from dps so they can get mp back.

Sucks i enjoy SMN so much i still play it for raid not top dps anymore but at least i don't suck like most people that play mnk or drg in this game.

[ClaireAbigail]

Lol....as someone who plays both monk and ninja (cleared t9 as a ninja and cleared t13 as a monk)all I can say is good players will be good. Bad players will be bad. If you are bringing someone in your raid group just because they play a certain class over someone who is better but doesn't play the class you want, well you're doing something wrong.
Skill>class.
Oh and please dont be a smart ass and say, "then I can bring liek 4 drg or 4 smn or 4 *insert class here* hurr durr" you know what I'm talking about.

[Ephier]

Lol....as someone who plays both monk and ninja (cleared t9 as a ninja and cleared t13 as a monk)all I can say is good players will be good. Bad players will be bad. If you are bringing someone in your raid group just because they play a certain class over someone who is better but doesn't play the class you want, well you're doing something wrong.
Skill>class.
Oh and please dont be a smart ass and say, "then I can bring liek 4 drg or 4 smn or 4 *insert class here* hurr durr" you know what I'm talking about.

Skill is irrelevant in this discussion because the arguments assume that both players of the NIN and MNK in our hypothetical scenarios are of equal skill level. With that said, we are discussing the differences in their utility and which one is more useful in the current state of the game.