New tanking abilities in the expansion thread!

[SirTaint]

For a tank, i agree you don't need a gap closure but a Melee dps especially monks, you are sooooo wrong about not needing it. Your 3 GS stacks depends on shoulder tackle most of the time.

Tanks need a Gap closer....Chasing around adds and then running back is a DPS killer. ex would be T13 phase 2 dragons, you can't OT near Bahamut so there is always a large Gap once the add is down. It could also be useful for opening combos instead of loltomalob or moving out of AoE.

[Xenosan]

Job trait speculations: Enhanced Shield Swipe, adds a Bleed DoT or an Invul down to Swipe. Something like that.

I don't think moving PLD into more White Magic MP usage is a likely scenario.

Our Western translation of jp's Pld class has this assumption that paladins are divine/religous warriors. It's not so

Pld in jp translates more directly to just Knight. Not necessarily divine or sanctified. The whitemage cross class for gla/pld is already too much appeasement for our western expectations. I hope they don't take it any further continuing this trope

edit: I said dis, then apparently the PAX lvl 60 gear set demo showcased the PLD standing inside a church hohum

[Blueskyy]

Tanks need a Gap closer....Chasing around adds and then running back is a DPS killer. ex would be T13 phase 2 dragons, you can't OT near Bahamut so there is always a large Gap once the add is down. It could also be useful for opening combos instead of loltomalob or moving out of AoE.

I think i have to rephrase my words. I think that it's ok for a tank to have gap closer but it's not as important as it is to a DPS, I'm replying to someone saying that gap closure is not needed in FFXIV.

[Ehayte]

I did a WAR post which I thought was mega cool and no one liked :, ( - here's a PLD one!!!

Weaponskill: Peace of Thaliak - potency 100. Combo Action: Riot Blade - Potency 265, adds a buff to player: "For 10 seconds, natural MP regeneration is increased by 300%"

Spell: Wall. Cast time: 5 seconds. For every ally within 5y of the Paladin, they are granted a temporary shield. Shield potency of 400 based on STR, duration 15s, stacks with SS, Galvanize, MP cost: 800.

Ability: Sword Art - Duration 20s, Cool-down 120s. An additional auto attack for 40 potency is added for each auto attack. For the duration of the skill, blocking is disabled and the Parry rate is increased by 50%

Ability: Vigilance - Duration 10s, Cool-down 300s. If any physical attack is not blocked, it will be parried. If you are hit by any magical attacks, the damage is completely ignored.

[TouchandFeel]

After the Pax East panel, I have my doubts about them pushing the mp usage of PLD much, if any farther since they revealed MP management and usage as a major facet of DRK tanking and they will want to keep the play styles of the tanks differenrt.

[Ultimatecalibur]

After the Pax East panel, I have my doubts about them pushing the mp usage of PLD much, if any farther since they revealed MP management and usage as a major facet of DRK tanking and they will want to keep the play styles of the tanks differenrt.

There is a difference between mitigation being primarily tied to cool down management (Paladin), stack management (Warrior) and MP management (Dark Knight's implied method). Paladin getting additional offensive actions tied to MP use would not necessarily infringe on the Dark Knight's play style.

One thing to consider is that Tank gear may get a bit more diverse statwise as they may be able to include pieces that enhance Piety and/or Spellspeed. Pre-addition of the Dark Knight such pieces would be "Only usable by Paladins."

[Giantbane]

There is a difference between mitigation being primarily tied to cool down management (Paladin), stack management (Warrior) and MP management (Dark Knight's implied method). Paladin getting additional offensive actions tied to MP use would not necessarily infringe on the Dark Knight's play style.

One thing to consider is that Tank gear may get a bit more diverse statwise as they may be able to include pieces that enhance Piety and/or Spellspeed. Pre-addition of the Dark Knight such pieces would be "Only usable by Paladins."

They can't very well just tie it directly to MP management or else it would be impossible to balance DRK mitigation with vs. without a BRD.

[Ultimatecalibur]

They can't very well just tie it directly to MP management or else it would be impossible to balance DRK mitigation with vs. without a BRD.

Depends heavily on the MP cost of things and intended rotation. I suspect two of their main mitigation methods may be a deflection shield and a target debuff that they need to cast every so often. They will likely have it so that the Dark Knight will start to run out of MP in fights at around the same point Paladins start running out of TP.

[TouchandFeel]

I wasn't saying that there potentially couldn't be another offensive ability for PLD that uses MP, I was expressing my doubt as to SqEnix pushing PLD into the more magic heavy holy knight direction that many people have asked for. That was all. One more offensive ability that uses mp as its resource is not pushing the mp usage of PLD that much at all, so falls in line with what I said. But again, I doubt it would go much farther than that.

[FallenWings]

Warrior:

Infuriate II
Grants 5 stacks of wrath, 60 second cool down.

Inner Beast x 3 yes please.

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