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    Player
    Wadoka's Avatar
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    Eilis Tozet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 52
    I second the request for a gap-closer. "Valorous Charge" or somesuch. Give it a longish cooldown, if you must; longer than a DRG's jumps and dives; make it burn some good chunk of TP; but let us leap into battle, leap to the aid of comrades in straits dire...
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    Zeroa Aru
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Wadoka View Post
    I second the request for a gap-closer. "Valorous Charge" or somesuch. Give it a longish cooldown, if you must; longer than a DRG's jumps and dives; make it burn some good chunk of TP; but let us leap into battle, leap to the aid of comrades in straits dire...
    I'd even settle for having Shoulder charge for a level 55/60 cross class ability (if we get more) to act as a closer. I hate off tanking with strangers - I rarely get DPS who don't go hell for ham before I get a chance to even reach an add let alone pull hate, lock hate and position it.

    Yes I'm talking about you - random blackmages without quelling strikes.
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 91
    Shoulder Tackle as a cross-class would mean that only WAR would get it
    This is functionality that should be available to all tank classes.

    I think it should also have a very short stun (1-2 seconds) so that it can act as an interrupt and will stop a running mob in place for a moment so you can get in at least 1 attack to begin building aggro.

    It would definitely need a higher tp cost than the stuns the tanks already have, so that when in melee range it is better to use the stuns we already have.

    So yeah, pretty much like Shoulder Tackle just not that as a cross-class.
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    Sir Taint
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    A gap closer - yes please!
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    Nel Synestra
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    A gap closer - yes please!
    All tanks should get one, kinda suprised they already dont have this so i hope we will see it in expansion.
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    Cariborne Aasami
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    A gap closer - yes please!
    I feel like a gap closure isn't quite needed in FF14 right now. I wouldn't mind seeing one tank get it, like the Warrior getting a Bull Rush type move and seeing how it feels after this expansion, but just him.

    I'd want the Paladin to get an extra AoE Move, and the Warrior to get an extra defensive move so we don't have them pigeon-holed into Main and Off tank as much in the expansion.
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    Aisu Strong
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cariborne View Post
    I feel like a gap closure isn't quite needed in FF14 right now. I wouldn't mind seeing one tank get it, like the Warrior getting a Bull Rush type move and seeing how it feels after this expansion, but just him.

    I'd want the Paladin to get an extra AoE Move, and the Warrior to get an extra defensive move so we don't have them pigeon-holed into Main and Off tank as much in the expansion.
    main reason for pld being mt is becuase literally all he has as ot is halone and fracture
    he runs out of tp with no swipe procs

    nothing to do with warrior being "inferior" or "squishier"
    war is only worse than pld when you try to play war like pld.
    war aint no 3 button dance
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cariborne View Post
    I feel like a gap closure isn't quite needed in FF14 right now.
    For a tank, i agree you don't need a gap closure but a Melee dps especially monks, you are sooooo wrong about not needing it. Your 3 GS stacks depends on shoulder tackle most of the time.
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    Sir Taint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueskyy View Post
    For a tank, i agree you don't need a gap closure but a Melee dps especially monks, you are sooooo wrong about not needing it. Your 3 GS stacks depends on shoulder tackle most of the time.

    Tanks need a Gap closer....Chasing around adds and then running back is a DPS killer. ex would be T13 phase 2 dragons, you can't OT near Bahamut so there is always a large Gap once the add is down. It could also be useful for opening combos instead of loltomalob or moving out of AoE.
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    Unicorn
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Tanks need a Gap closer....Chasing around adds and then running back is a DPS killer. ex would be T13 phase 2 dragons, you can't OT near Bahamut so there is always a large Gap once the add is down. It could also be useful for opening combos instead of loltomalob or moving out of AoE.
    I think i have to rephrase my words. I think that it's ok for a tank to have gap closer but it's not as important as it is to a DPS, I'm replying to someone saying that gap closure is not needed in FFXIV.
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