Can someone give me an in-depth explanation why Summoner is arguably the worst DPS?

[Kona_Nightwind]

I wasn't even talking about DRG DPS. I was talking about how it would die to unavoidable mechanics that every other class could easily eat. If a class can't clear content in the same level of gear that every other class can its broken. And yes some DRG that got special treatment from very good groups could clear the content, but they were exceptions not the rule.

[Kona_Nightwind]

You can't balance a class by the top 5%, it needs to be done by the average players. Does smn need some work? Sure they do. Are they behind enough to warrant a change before an expansion? No.

[Orrias]

Does smn need some work? Sure they do. Are they behind enough to warrant a change before an expansion? No.

At least according to Yoshi-P (http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/991/991969/), SMN's should receive some "adjustment" before Heavensward. As for what those "adjustments" may be, I can only hazard as to guess that it'll be either asn mp cost reduction of some abilities, or a slight potency/ % change to Aetherflow/ Energy Drain (in regards to mp returns).

[Sen_Terrechant]

You can't balance a class by the top 5%, it needs to be done by the average players. Does smn need some work? Sure they do. Are they behind enough to warrant a change before an expansion? No.

Bullcrap. It should ALWAYS be balanced by the top %. Nobody else is actually pushing the class to the limit of what it can accomplish, nobody else can actually see how the class balances affect each other.

If you look at 'average' players right now, classes dont matter at all. Why? because they are average players, barely pushing content when it matters. They are players that need to outgear the content before they can even kill it.

Frankly, they dont matter in a class balance perspective.

[Akiza]

Bullcrap. It should ALWAYS be balanced by the top %. Nobody else is actually pushing the class to the limit of what it can accomplish, nobody else can actually see how the class balances affect each other.

If you look at 'average' players right now, classes dont matter at all. Why? because they are average players, barely pushing content when it matters. They are players that need to outgear the content before they can even kill it.

Frankly, they dont matter in a class balance perspective.

Tell that to word first hardcore progression FC's that uses crafted penta melded gear to clear FCOB. Most players have average skills they just use gear to min/max and push phases to make the fight easier.

[Viridiana]

I wasn't even talking about DRG DPS. I was talking about how it would die to unavoidable mechanics that every other class could easily eat. If a class can't clear content in the same level of gear that every other class can its broken. And yes some DRG that got special treatment from very good groups could clear the content, but they were exceptions not the rule.

That's the thing, though. DRG was in the exact same state SMN is currently in. With better gear than was possible for cutting-edge progression, DRG could clear FCoB before they were buffed. Same is true now of SMN. With better gear than was used for progression, SMN can currently clear FCoB. Both jobs had to "overgear" content (probably closer to what the devs intended for ilvl) in order to clear it. DRG got buffed to not need to overgear. SMN still has to overgear. Why?