The Monk Temple Reborn

[Ricdeau]

Sometimes we just need to pray to RNGesus xD though i would like to know BiS including crafted, too. ; ;

I'd have to breakout the spread sheet with a few different materia layouts to really tell. It's on my laptop at work, but just some quick tinkering you'd be looking at something probably like this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PS2Z. You'd need to be prepared for an easy 40+ million even with decent luck.

[Xashyu]

I'd have to breakout the spread sheet with a few different materia layouts to really tell. It's on my laptop at work, but just some quick tinkering you'd be looking at something probably like this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PS2Z. You'd need to be prepared for an easy 40+ million even with decent luck.

I do need to ask though - how come skill speed?

[Victorixvii]

Ok so i have since revised my set its still not gonna be cheap but i already have 2 of crafted pieces i just need to get the melds done and get the choker and earrings from t10 and t11 http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PS2F

[Ricdeau]

I do need to ask though - how come skill speed?

Because skill speed increases your DPS. The reason crafted pieces can beat i130 is because you can fit both DPS increasing secondary stats and accuracy. If you specifically leave out SS then they typically aren't worth the investment (there are some instances where focusing more on accuracy on them can be beneficial). Many people try to get crafted stuff, run out of money, and are like well I'll just put in rank III materia instead which is also a bad idea because you will most likely not hit the values you need to make them better than their i130 counterparts. It's not like SS alone is bad. SS and long fights can be if you don't manage TP and have no bard/ninja causing you to be TP dry for extended periods. 458 SS isn't even that high anyway. You'd need a pretty high SS value to really frown upon it to be honest.

Edit - Some of the accessories you can shuffle around materia load outs for different outcomes, but I'm not going to spend too much time messing with it since I can only test them one at a time. If I had my spreadsheet then I could compare the different loadouts against each other for a better look. What I presented was just some quick eyeballing.

[Altijacek]

Are wasting buffs/debuffs/DOTs by refreshing them when the add/s are just about to die?

Also can you elaborate on what you're doing as a rotation?

I'm very cautious about using dragon kick on an add that's about to die, or dots for that matter. Generally I just do the regular opener followed by touch of death after perfect balance is up, then boot, true, demolish, dragon, twin, snap, boot, true, snap, dragon, twin, demolish, etc. I'd like to think I'm doing everything near perfectly because I do include fracture and touch of death at the right times without letting dragon or twin fall off and such, but yeah I'm sure there is something I'm not doing correctly. What SHOULD I be hitting, without a death and at 115 for t10? I'm pretty sure I can do 450-475 without being targeted and without dying

[THETRUESELF]

I'm very cautious about using dragon kick on an add that's about to die, or dots for that matter. Generally I just do the regular opener followed by touch of death after perfect balance is up, then boot, true, demolish, dragon, twin, snap, boot, true, snap, dragon, twin, demolish, etc. I'd like to think I'm doing everything near perfectly because I do include fracture and touch of death at the right times without letting dragon or twin fall off and such, but yeah I'm sure there is something I'm not doing correctly. What SHOULD I be hitting, without a death and at 115 for t10? I'm pretty sure I can do 450-475 without being targeted and without dying

I think I was at 482~ with i116 back then (with bard/solo mnk/no nin/no pots/no ppp/with bufffood). idk if that's an average number though.

Are you planning on using crafted gear at all or just purely i130? From what you've posted it just looks like you plan to use i130 only from the other set you linked. BiS with no crafted gear is this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OUKD. This results in a 0.72 str increase over what you linked. Either set would be extremely capable.

I'm actually a lot of cheaper. I'm not willing to spend 100k on food for a single raidday, so I don't buy/craft Caviar and just use Risotto. So my BiS is again 0,78 weight lost compared to "correct" BiS. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PSAQ
Just don't think it's that necessary if you are willing not to see perfect DPS numbers. Can clear all content without a probem and the gear will be useless anyway after 3.0 hits. With that being said;; It depends on your server price for the Caviar of course. ((or if you have a personal crafter/raidlead who do this stuff for you.))

[Ricdeau]

I'm actually a lot of cheaper. I'm not willing to spend 100k on food for a single raidday, so I don't buy/craft Caviar and just use Risotto. So my BiS is again 0,78 weight lost compared to "correct" BiS. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PSAQ
Just don't think it's that necessary if you are willing not to see perfect DPS numbers. Can clear all content without a probem and the gear will be useless anyway after 3.0 hits. With that being said;; It depends on your server price for the Caviar of course. ((or if you have a personal crafter/raidlead who do this stuff for you.))

I don't use Caviar either. Too expensive and no one in my guild can make it HQ. People just love asking for THE BiS regardless of price as you can see when people start asking for BiS sets including crafted pieces. So I'll show them on paper what the numbers say is best. I made the belt and pentamelded it, and if I had it to do over again I'm not so sure I would have made the thing.

[THETRUESELF]

I don't use Caviar either. Too expensive and no one in my guild can make it HQ. People just love asking for THE BiS regardless of price as you can see when people start asking for BiS sets including crafted pieces. So I'll show them on paper what the numbers say is best. I made the belt and pentamelded it, and if I had it to do over again I'm not so sure I would have made the thing.

Okay, good then. C: It's kinda "sad" though, we need to distinguish "affordable BiS" and "expensive BiS" :x

[Ricdeau]

Okay, good then. C: It's kinda "sad" though, we need to distinguish "affordable BiS" and "expensive BiS" :x

Pre i110 crafted accessories I posted up a number of different sets for varying amounts of crafted gear, full i130, and using a different foods. I haven't messed with it too much since the i110 accessories were made mainly because I'm not terribly excited at the though of paying that much money pentamelding more pieces.

[Odowla]

Yeah I mean, to beat the stat weights of the other pieces, the rings are like, 11 million gil, at least on gilgamesh, on average... no thanks.