CAN WE PLEASE GET SOME BUTT SLIDERS FOR THE FEMALES

[TheRogueX]

1. The term is relevant, not rele, get that straight.

2. I do know the term convenience, you continue time and time again you cannot even comprehend the notion. So for your own sake, stop trying to.

3. You've been missing the point the entire time, so no funny enough, I haven't been.

lol, we're not arguing what the meaning of convenience is. What I'm saying is that whether or not it's a feature of necessity or convenience does not matter; it is irrelevant. As for the rest, yeah. Sorry man, but you are so lost as to what's really going on that it's sad. You have absolutely no idea how project management works.

All of these was planned and and was always on this "developmental roadmap" that you was talking about? Because the only "roadmap" I've seen was the story from 2.0 to Heavensward.

The developmental roadmap I'm talking about is something internal. It's not something they just throw out to the masses. I've never seen it, you've never seen it. Only employees have seen it. Again, no idea how projects of this size and scope are managed.

So let's go over things again:

1. Stoneskin 2: Likely fit into the schedule for bugfixing, balancing, tuning. So sure, it wasn't planned, per se, but it was something they could give to the team already working on bugfixing, balancing, tuning.
2. Class/Job buffs/nerfs: Part of the schedule for bugfixing, balancing, tuning. Like I said, this was time, money, and resources already set aside for this exact purpose.
3. Housing: The subdivision thing was a panic reaction to the housing 'crisis.' If you note, they diverted resources to 'fixing' the problem and actually made it worse.
4. New Dungeons, Trials, Raids, Story Content: This is PLANNED content, and it is content required to keeping a game relevant ("people like to actually have reasons to stay and play"). FIXING BUTTS ON MODELS IS NOT REQUIRED TO KEEP A GAME RELEVANT.

There is, under no circumstances, a time when making these changes to the character models is anywhere near the same priority as bugfixing, balance issues, class/job tuning, or actual game content. When will you get this?

Anyway, I really am done now. I know you'll come back with some asinine response that just continues to show your ignorance of software development/project management, but I don't care.

Funny thing about all this? I actually wouldn't mind if they 'fixed the butts.' I, however, just understand why it's not something they can just *do.*

[Xhominid]

Yeah I'm not gonna continue to waste my time on this, letting my daily posting limits be burnt to nothing over people that either don't get it, don't see the point or pretend that they suddenly have a better understanding of something without noticing the obvious irony.

All I'm gonna say to both of you and the other guy is that what IS a priority? Because Golden Saucer really isn't as much a priority as you guys make it out to be. I don't remember many MMOs, F2P or otherwise, even HAVING playgrounds like GS, instead focusing on expansions.

If that is somehow important AND clamored enough, same with housing and this, why isn't this something when people are asking for it? Why is that less important than say a buff for a class that people are in absolute disarray more than the people in this thread(whether or not SMN and BRD need buffs or even if SMN is in need of a redesign)?

Here's my point: You are acting like because you don't want it, it's now not a priority. If I had my way, there would be no point in housing period past GC spots and you would only need 1 class to craft but I'm not gonna whine or complain or even act like people asking for it shouldn't even exist.

That's my issue here, you are acting like you know better when you don't. At this rate I'm gonna start hearing people complain about people wanting more makeup options or color their fingernails or something and say that should be spend on "more content" forgetting a team is already working on said content in advance.

[SekhmetM]

Haha oh wow.

What will you dweebs demand next, anime eyes and fedoras?

You're so cool and edgy insulting other people like that brah

[Mugiawara]

If both if you feel this way, why are even IN this topic? You aren't playing the cool kids nor earning any respect points from this either.

I don't know why you're being mean to me because I'm not even trying to offend anyone. I'm just here for dicussion and I say again, I'm in for this but come on now...
You're seriously comparing apples to oranges on this topic.
A butt you barely see most of the time because you're in some sort of gear, panned out or whatever.
As for priorities, I am not sure if you were here when there was a hell storm when housing originally came out, people waited for years on housing
only to be turned into poop, 6mo's or so later it turned worse, housing made me livid because basically it's content I'm gated to. So many people got forum banned because
of it..it was awful. I'm not going to say anymore, it's a new year and I'm living my pass anger issues about it behind lol.

But yeah, comparing actual content people log into to do for funsies to a behind just ain't right...I've yet to find a valid reason to the amount of want...but give what the people want I say.
-Shrugs; Just gimme GS ... AND DON'T SCREW IT UP! XD

[KaedrianLiang]

They made absolutely no effort to make a female version of the Noct set. Im sure players can think of more examples. When there are differences in male and female designs its for all the wrong reasons or unnecessary. *Cough drg and nin af *cough*

And that's a problem why?
Noct Lorica is horrible for plenty of reasons on females and lots of people complain about female DRG for stupid reasons(love the practicality reasoning in a game where we virtually fight gods) and what is wrong with Female Nin now? The fact she's based on the Kunoichi look?

Srs post, is srs.

Especially the last line thats meant to be a sarcastic jab at players that are complaining for the exact reasons you stated.

YOU GET IT YOU REALLY DO.

except for this opening line: "And that's a problem why?"

and this finishing line: "what is wrong with Female Nin now?"

and these outburts: "stupid reasons" "<something about gods>."

Which declares you have some kind of biased agenda. You are as sinister as those players complaining about the armors for "real life fight to the death scenarios". /facedesk

[dice137]

How about no?

[KaedrianLiang]

*Rolls up in an electric wheelchair* How 'bout nuuuuUuuu? you crazy dutch bastard!

/keystrokes

[Xhominid]

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Is this whole post supposed to be sarcastic? Be honest, as I made one little blunder and you are tossing this all out.
So sleep on it and whatever happens after that happens. And oh yeah, trying to detect sarcasm on the internet is like trying to detect a needle in a haystack.

I don't know why you're being mean to me because I'm not even trying to offend anyone. I'm just here for dicussion and I say again, I'm in for this but come on now...
You're seriously comparing apples to oranges on this topic.
A butt you barely see most of the time because you're in some sort of gear, panned out or whatever.

And? What about those who plan to glamour? How many times have you seen people, male and female toons, play half naked characters? Don't you think they care about their appearances on that forefront as well or do they suddenly not matter?

As for priorities, I am not sure if you were here when there was a hell storm when housing originally came out, people waited for years on housing
only to be turned into poop, 6mo's or so later it turned worse, housing made me livid because basically it's content I'm gated to. So many people got forum banned because
of it..it was awful. I'm not going to say anymore, it's a new year and I'm living my pass anger issues about it behind lol.

Oh no, I KNOW of the story of housing(you think that OUR outrage was bad? Japanese outrage made ours look extremely tame like a poodle compared to their F-5 Tornado), I was saying that on the point of it, it's nothing more than another convenience, something that players mainly asked for themselves and Squenix delivered, same with Golden Saucer and plenty of other conveniences that isn't explore storyline and do dungeons honestly.

But yeah, comparing actual content people log into to do for funsies to a behind just ain't right...I've yet to find a valid reason to the amount of want...but give what the people want I say.
-Shrugs; Just gimme GS ... AND DON'T SCREW IT UP! XD

And how is that not fair? It's still is as you rightfully stated a convenience, something to break up the monotony of this game and many other MMOs like it. Heck, even making new hairstyles is still a convenience which is virtually what I'm talking about. Some people like to have options for their character and plenty of people PRIDE themselves on making a character they like. You can say up and down how this doesn't concern yourself but do they not matter? It's mainly you can't have your cake and eat it too. Some people want more housing, some people want to have more fun options to goof around in and some people want their characters to look nicer/hotter, who is right in saying that isn't what I want so forget them? I mean for pete sake, you have people asking for MALE BODY HAIR OPTIONS and somehow that is raising less of a stink then people asking for proportionate butts for males and females, does that somehow not strike you as ridiculous?

[melflomil]

The main topic of this thread is just more customization, Butts, Bulges, boobies, forehead, eyebrows, more muscle tone and nipples; you name it. So everyone can look unique.

[Tiggy]

The main topic of this thread is just more customization, Butts, Bulges, boobies, forehead, eyebrows, more muscle tone and nipples; you name it. So everyone can look unique.

I believe you may have failed to read both the Title and the OP to this thread. The main topic is butts. It may have spread into other things, but those were off topic.

Seriously guys we know butts aren't happening. We've had dev responses. If I ran this forum I'd just lock every thread with this topic I saw because it's a waste of time getting peoples hopes up by even having the discussion about it. It won't happen. It doesn't matter what our opinions are on the matter.