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  1. #141
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    Another thing people should try is to bypass Nagle's Algorithm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle's_algorithm - Explanation of what it is and how it effects online gaming.

    It does require editing the Registry so use at your own risk. (the steps for it are really easy to do)

    Another option may be to enable User Datagram Protocol for FFXIV (I haven't even attempted this yet so not sure how it would works)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol

    But if you have a low latency/low packet loss connection to any of your local servers I can see how that would be beneficial to waiting on packet verification.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 02-11-2015 at 12:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Another thing people should try is to bypass Nagle's Algorithm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle's_algorithm - Explanation of what it is and how it effects online gaming.

    It does require editing the Registry so use at your own risk. (the steps for it are really easy to do)

    Another option may be to enable User Datagram Protocol for FFXIV (I haven't even attempted this yet so not sure how it would works)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol

    But if you have a low latency/low packet loss connection to any of your local servers I can see how that would be beneficial to waiting on packet verification.
    That don't work and let me explain why. When you are disabling nagle's algorithm, you are allowing more smaller packets to go through instead of one big one, the way they have their servers set up, it can only accept so many packets so quickly. Real world example, only so many cars can fit in the tunnel before the tunnel is full. You may experience DECREASED performance with Nagle off, rather than on, I have tested this multiple times.

    As for messing with UDP, I do not think that will have any effect on the game as it is a TCP based game, not UDP.
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  3. #143
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    Wouldn't more smaller packets fill the same volume of the tunnel?
    They just wouldn't have to wait for the bus to be full. They'd just take their Smart Car?

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    I'll have to try it but there are these UDP Ports: 55296 - 55551 for FFXIV: ARR which might be worth prioritizing for QoS

    I doubt the Mudra commands send enough packet data to be efficient through TCP which may be why they have both UDP and TCP available.
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  4. #144
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    So does this have a big impact on NIN in end game? I'm really wanting to play one but if it's being held back with these issues...I would rather roll something else more useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskmourne View Post
    So does this have a big impact on NIN in end game? I'm really wanting to play one but if it's being held back with these issues...I would rather roll something else more useful.
    I have mudra lag and can do decent enough dps. Sadly, you get used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Wouldn't more smaller packets fill the same volume of the tunnel?
    They just wouldn't have to wait for the bus to be full. They'd just take their Smart Car?
    I think just based on the header they would take up more total space than a single packet including the data from all the sub packets. Also there's processing overhead for each packet so as you increase the ratio of packets to data the amount of time spent on processing overhead would go up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskmourne View Post
    So does this have a big impact on NIN in end game? I'm really wanting to play one but if it's being held back with these issues...I would rather roll something else more useful.
    I do about 620 dps on a dummy. In a dummy-like fight (ie T11) I drop down to around 590 due to FCoB lag. It's not enough to make or break the fight, but it is a noticeable drop. I imagine if I wasn't using a vpn I'd probably drop another 20-30 dps again.
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    I sort of got used to seeing my Ninjutsu not being finalized to what I want it to be when I put in my inputs.

    But when I see "Cannot execute at this time.", I lose my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskmourne View Post
    So does this have a big impact on NIN in end game? I'm really wanting to play one but if it's being held back with these issues...I would rather roll something else more useful.
    If you were looking to get max efficiency out of your NIN, a VPN (depending on where you are) is a major requirement. It is miserable to deal with mudra in Coils if I do not have one. I payed 120 days worth, but if mudra is not fixed or reworked before my time expires on my VPN, I am going to switch to Machinist (assuming it does not use a mudra like system).
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  10. #150
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    VPN is useful
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 03-17-2015 at 09:45 AM.
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