Mudra's seem sluggish?

[BroodingFicus]

I've been having lots of fun with this. Sometimes its so bad (like in ST or large fates) Raitons animation actually starts going off when I actually inputted Huton, as if it just sorta overlooked my last mudra for a few seconds. Sometimes it catches on and casts the correct thing, other times I think perhaps I messed up and hit the last mudra again only to get a rabbit. Rather frustrating that they took the time to nerf ninja but not fix the most glaring issue with the class.

[Ephier]

I'd just like a system in place so that everything goes at the same speed, its really annoying when sometimes they are baby smooth, then the next mudra they are super slow. Messes with the rhythm of things.

[Judge_Xero]

Ran into this myself. Each Mudra was literally 1 GCD. Changed around a bunch of stuff to try and pinpoint the issue, since I haven't heard of anyone's delay being that bad.

Things I tried

- Different Video Cards (Graphic Delay?)
- Changing system power profiles (System Delay)
- Changing Computers (system/driver issues)
- lowering graphic settings and frame rate settings (again, maybe graphical delay)

I was so confused, because my ping to the NA server is 30 ms and I don't have issues dodging etc and this really looked like a strictly "input delay" to the server.

What I found was that the Packet Monitoring through my network firewall was doing something to the packets each time it verified them going out. I'm not great with networking, but I think it messed up their order after the verification, causing them to have to be sent again, up to the point where SE recognizes it on their end and then send their input back. (sometimes the delay is worse/better?)

By giving FFXIV direct access through my firewall without packet verification, now I have the normal 0.5s Mudras and can fit them all between the GCD.


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I'd bet this is actually an issue with all skills (Hallowed Ground, Bennediction, Tank Buff CD's going off but tank still taking huge damage)

Anything that goes out and requires verification before SE reply's with the changes.

I think that the NIN mudras make it so noticeable because it requires so much verification compared to other skills.

i.e.
Ten -> eTn (nope) neT (nope) Ten (Yes) <- Shuriken
Chi -> ihC (nope) -> Chi (Yes) -> Ten + Chi? (Yes) <- Raiton

[Lyrinn]

A simple balance change that would make mudra lag more bearable would be to "refund" some of the cooldown upon a failed jutsu, e.g. if we get bunny and we don't use it, reduce the cooldown for the next Ninjutsu by 5 or 10 seconds. That way we don't get punished so hard (e.g. 20 seconds without Huton is disastrous) for something that's out of our control.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

It definitely is annoying having this mudra lag. Sometimes i can do really nice damage. Other times it's... not as good D:

[KikoriL]

Looking at Mudra use, a thought strikes me.
Wouldn't it work if Mudra didn't share cooldowns, but instead had individual, very short cooldowns? No Ninjutsu seems to involve two repeating Mudra, so something like a one second cooldown (keeping the half second cast time) on each individual Mudra? It could allow people with even poor connections to button spam one Mudra, start its single cooldown, have a half-second grace period to hit the next one, it casts, half a second to move to the third, and then cast the Ninjutsu. Even with a Kassatsu rush, the Mudra being down for one second in theory should get back by the time the next chain is beginning.

[Ephier]

Looking at Mudra use, a thought strikes me.
Wouldn't it work if Mudra didn't share cooldowns, but instead had individual, very short cooldowns? No Ninjutsu seems to involve two repeating Mudra, so something like a one second cooldown (keeping the half second cast time) on each individual Mudra? It could allow people with even poor connections to button spam one Mudra, start its single cooldown, have a half-second grace period to hit the next one, it casts, half a second to move to the third, and then cast the Ninjutsu. Even with a Kassatsu rush, the Mudra being down for one second in theory should get back by the time the next chain is beginning.

If they did that, they would be shooting themselves in the food if they wanted to add more mudras that did involve 2 of the same button.

[KikoriL]

If they did that, they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they wanted to add more mudra that did involve 2 of the same button.

If, then. It's a suggestion for what's out now. If they wanted to add more Ninjutsu, then a fourth Mudra would be another alternative anyway.

[Navaealus_Astennu]

Completely random and I don't know if this will work for everyone but hit your Mudras to the beat of "Hot, Cross, Buns". It works amazing for me xD The Mudras flow nicely, outside and in duties :3

[KuroyamiYuki]

Hi guys!
Im a ''main'' ninja playing on PS3, and something bother me.
Can ninja be good on PS3 too? Or its harder or even impossible?
Some people told me that PS3 punish really hard ninja and his mudra... I don't know what to do, I have poetics but wonder if continue ninja ora change class for my console :\
Help! ;_;
PS: Sry if I failed thread xD