Level 50 Dungeon Level Syncs

[Avraym]

Hate it. Even the whole level sync makes me writhe in agony.

The idea that low level content almost always takes x2 or x3 longer when geared than its lvl50 counterpart to me is just silly.

I find that one of the most rewarding and satisfying reasons to play mmorpgs is to get stronger and develop your character.

Level/item sync is just a massive wall to this. I understand its purpose, but to me it's just not warranted enough.

Imagine how great it would be to take one of your mates through some old content who really needs it for the clear or the gear, and being able to just go in together and smash it, without being burdened by queue times or required roles.

If you can only use the full capability of your ilvl 110+ gear in a small percentage of the game content, then it really minimizes its overall value.

[Ashkendor]

if pharos got a realistic sync tanks would actually have to not let wolves rape the healer
and actually pop a cooldown
and dodge

and clearly that's just too hard for a damn lot of them

What happened in that video had nothing to do with the tank and everything to do with the DPS. They were burning the boss and completely ignoring the adds, which is a huge no-no in that fight. With how overpowered we are for the dungeon at this point, burning the boss down just makes adds spawn FAST until it gets to the point where you're overwhelmed, you get loaded with stacks, and you end up getting one shotted by the explosion. Running around near the tank and getting them hit with additional stacks was a bad judgement call, too.

That video you linked showcases the DPS ignoring the mechanics more than the tank.

Yup. DPS should be on those adds ASAP. When I tank this, I hit whatever adds I can with shield lob, but I'm not dragging that boss around and picking up more stacks myself. As DPS, I burn the adds as soon as they spawn. The two white mages I usually run with are able to handle adds on their own if all else fails (i.e. bad DF DPS ignoring them like in the video). Swiftcast Holy is pretty damn powerful considering our current item levels.

[aisustrong]

if you overgear it as much as typical today, why are you running 2 whm?

[Ashkendor]

if you overgear it as much as typical today, why are you running 2 whm?

Uh. No offense, but that's kind of a silly question. I said I have two white mages I usually run with, not that I run with both of them at the same time. All of us have multiple roles at 50 and well geared (i115+), so one runs WHM and one runs BRD/BLM. The point is, neither of them have a problem with putting the hurt on some adds instead of just kiting them to the tank. Hell, I sometimes heal it on SCH and smack the adds around with energy drain/ruin II.

[allecs]

I think it should be removed. I worked hard to level up and gear up, why punish me by nerfing my stats?

[Eye_Gore]

I think it should be removed. I worked hard to level up and gear up, why punish me by nerfing my stats?

Its not punishing you, its helping the lower players as stated many times before. Say you're doing a roulette or working on a book, or for whatever you need to do a level synch dungeon for. Say you get Sastasha you go in full ilvl120+, you could probably solo the dungeon. How would a new tank or healer be able to actually do their job? A new tank couldn't hold aggro off you and your HP wouldn't even probably move so a healer wouldn't be doing much, no learning. A caster DPS class may not even get a spell off before the mob is dead. Everyone always says that the early dungeons are for learning your role. You can't learn anything if don't actually get to play your role, leading to further complications after 50 content.

They're working hard to level up too, you were there once, give em a break. Remember there is no "I" in MMO. Don't be "That Player", oh wait.......

[Werhusky]

Isnt it just a prenerf for expansion? Do you expect to do lvl 50 dungeons unsynced on level 60 o.O

[allecs]

Its not punishing you, its helping the lower players as stated many times before. Say you're doing a roulette or working on a book, or for whatever you need to do a level synch dungeon for. Say you get Sastasha you go in full ilvl120+, you could probably solo the dungeon. How would a new tank or healer be able to actually do their job? A new tank couldn't hold aggro off you and your HP wouldn't even probably move so a healer wouldn't be doing much, no learning. A caster DPS class may not even get a spell off before the mob is dead. Everyone always says that the early dungeons are for learning your role. You can't learn anything if don't actually get to play your role, leading to further complications after 50 content.

They're working hard to level up too, you were there once, give em a break. Remember there is no "I" in MMO.

Then they just sit back and relax. *Shrugs*
No other game punishes you for leveling up and no one has complained about an over geared high level one shotting things in a dungeon....ever. You should learn your class before you enter dungeons in my opinion...that's what the big ol open world is for. I practice pulling and healing in between dungeons, not when I get in them.

[Eye_Gore]

Then they just sit back and relax. *Shrugs*
No other game punishes you for leveling up and no one has complained about an over geared high level one shotting things in a dungeon....ever. You should learn your class before you enter dungeons in my opinion...that's what the big ol open world is for. I practice pulling and healing in between dungeons, not when I get in them.

Sit back and relax, hmm, "why am I playing this game? To watch other players do what I should be doing?. Solo tanking and healing in the open world, big challenge there.

[allecs]

Sit back and relax, hmm, "why am I playing this game? To watch other players do what I should be doing?. Solo tanking and healing in the open world, big challenge there.

Almost everyone here watches other people play. Hence the whole "watch the video first or get out scrub!" mentality.

You pretty much always solo tank. But no, I grab these magical things called "friends" or join fate parties. I either pull as much as I can and practice my tanking rotation, holding aggro. Or I have people not dodge aoes and grab big pulls to practice my healing. So far, I've never gotten a complaint and always get complimented on my tanking/healing skills.