Level 50 Dungeon Level Syncs

[Aerowaffle]

The problem with WoW's method of cutting off most of the dungeons at max level, is that those low level dungeons are then hardly run.

If the goal of someone running the roulette is to farm the rewards for completing it, wouldn't a stricter iLvl sync be fine if the quantity of the rewards for said roulette were increased as well (since the dungeon would be harder)?

For those who want to be able to trash the dungeon because they want their hard work to show, I thought that was the point of the high end-game content? The entry level-50 content is filled with ... entry level-50 players. Many entry level-50 players actually want to experience the dungeon when they run it, because that's the kind of environment they're use to from dungeons pre lvl50. In the pre-lvl50 dungeons, groups aren't pulled 5 at a time (that would cause a wipe easily).

I believe playing a dungeon in the roulette should be at least a fraction of a challenge, you're getting a reward for it right? A group speed-running through a dungeon involves pulling half the dungeon, aoe'ing them down, burning down boss (avoiding 75% of the mechanics due to excess dps), then repeat. That isn't a challenge, that's a loading bar.

[Tiggy]

It would feel like a giant waste of time getting better gear if every piece of content had level syncs. This can easily be overdone to the point where upgrading each patch becomes pointless.

However, an OPTIONAL level sync for OPTIONAL challenges with perhaps a small reward boost would be a nice trade off.

[Limecat]

Removed.10charlol

[Tiggy]

seeing the irony here?

You clearly failed to read where I suggested an option that allows both groups to be happy. It isn't just about me and my response made that clear. The OPs suggestion is a one size fits all solution and mine was not.

Reading comprehension fails all around. Read closer before you hit the reply button and make a fool out of yourself for clearly not reading my entire response.

Great, be powerful, mock the less powerful by using your uber gear to clear difficult content with ease.

Why is it difficult for you to make an effort not to be offensive. Where did I say I lord my gear over others? Where did I say I mock people?

You've made so many assumptions in your response about me that you have zero basis for. You're the kind of person I'd rather avoid since you base your opinions of people on flight and fancy than reality. I only responded to the one quote here because it shows just how badly you're assumptions are. Many more of your responses are off too but that would just be a waste of time. You're wrong about me in general though mr assumption maker.

The funny thing to me is I offered this EXACT suggestion as an alternative mode with more drops. Instead you'd rather just complain at me because I didn't accept your version 100% without caveats. I offered more options and you offered less.

Tiggy never said her point of view is the only one, and actually she suggested something that would accommodate people on both sides of the issue. The person she replied to wants level syncs with no regard to whether or not other players want it that way. *shrugs*

Exactly.

[Kosmos992k]

Why is it difficult for you to make an effort not to be offensive. Where did I say I lord my gear over others? Where did I say I mock people?

It's implicit in your point of view that your gear and your power is more important and you care nothing about other things.

I don't care about the relevance of the content. I don't care one bit. What I care about is all that gear I work my butt of for being relevant.

[Tiggy]

It's implicit in your point of view that your gear and your power is more important and you care nothing about other things.

No, it's not. That's an assumption about me. You don't know me. You don't know how I treat people in dungeons. You don't know anything about me. Just because I like progression content does not make me an instant undesirable. You are acting in a prejudiced manner.

Now I get to say I don't care about your argument either, because you coming off so strongly makes me not want to agree with you even though your facts may be sound.

You don't like how I talk? I'm a very blunt personality and I say what I mean explicitly and directly. (not implicit like Kosmos wants to suggest) You don't need to like me and I personally don't care either way, but it doesn't change the content of my message or the reasoning behind it.

[Kosmos992k]

No, it's not. That's an assumption about me. You don't know me. You don't know how I treat people in dungeons. You don't know anything about me. Just because I like progression content does not make me an instant undesirable. You are acting in a prejudiced manner.

Did you not write this?

I don't care about the relevance of the content. I don't care one bit. What I care about is all that gear I work my butt of for being relevant.

Oh, while I remember, you asked;

Where did I say I mock people?

When you overgear content by such a vast amount, it makes a mockery of that content and players with level/content appropriate gear. That is how you mock people. Whether you intend it or not it is a consequence of you overgearing things so heavily. Whether you appreciate it or not, the players on the receiving end of your presence in a dungeon can very easily feel mocked since their efforts are essentially irrelevant due to your presence.

Yeah I did. I want what I spend hours each week obtaining to remaining relevant and useful for the small window of time that it even is relevant. I didn't say I want to harass people with my awesomeness or their lack there of. I meant only what I said. Any implicitness you take from it is yours and yours alone. I say what I mean and only what I mean. You're making assumptions.

I am not making an assumption, however you are ignoring the consequences of you vastly overgearing content, remember you already said you don't care about that content being relevant, and only care about your gear and progression. Your gear alone mocks the difficulty of some content.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

You know how people today keep complaining how no one pulls adds off the healers or how tanks don't do their job properly? Allowing people to steamroll old dungeons with fresh players will only magnify the problem since they aren't learning anything.

[Tiggy]

You just want everyone to be forced to play one way for your own reason.

No amount of level sync will make that content relevant again. Much of it is over a year old. All this would do is make people run high level roulette less often effectively drying out the queue because those players don't want to do obsolete dungeons that take that long to run. This would actually hurt new players more than help them.