Contagion is way too overrated!

[Eloah]

While I normally use Garuda, mostly because i like the caster type pets, I personally don't care about contagion all that much. While MP is important, I don't think a Summoner needs to watch it as much as the other magic classes. Normally when i use contagin I use it after I used Raging Strikes to increase my attack power, that way the added 15seconds are more beneficial, this is mosty on bosses. For trash I usually use it and then use bane to spread the extended dots to all the enemies.

Also, since no one probably used it after they got summoner, did anyone notice that Emerald Carbuncle has contagion too, lol, different name but same move.

[Kuwagami]

While MP is important, I don't think a Summoner needs to watch it as much as the other magic classes.

Huh ? SMN is currently the only magic job with heavy MP management problems even when everything goes smooth.

[Eloah]

Huh ? SMN is currently the only magic job with heavy MP management problems even when everything goes smooth.

Well then i must be doing something right or wrong because my MP is never an issuse, rarely do i dip below half.

And shouldn't WHM be the only magic job with MP management issues since they don't have any decent form of MP recovery, SMN/SCH have Aetherflow and Energy Drain, and BLM have Umbral Ice, WHM only have Shroud of Saints, which everyone agrees sucks.

[Kuwagami]

Well then i must be doing something right or wrong because my MP is never an issuse, rarely do i dip below half.

And shouldn't WHM be the only magic job with MP management issues since they don't have any decent form of MP recovery, SMN/SCH have Aetherflow and Energy Drain, and BLM have Umbral Ice, WHM only have Shroud of Saints, which everyone agrees sucks.

I have zero MP management problems with my WHM (5k MP might help though), and shroud, if used well, is a very good tool.

On the other hand, SMN are forced to reduce their DPS if they want to maintain their MP, by using more Energy drain than they'd want in detriment of bane (AoE) or Fester (solo). If they don't, they're MP starved in around 4/5 minutes and can't do anything after that.

[Eloah]

I have zero MP management problems with my WHM (5k MP might help though), and shroud, if used well, is a very good tool.

On the other hand, SMN are forced to reduce their DPS if they want to maintain their MP, by using more Energy drain than they'd want in detriment of bane (AoE) or Fester (solo). If they don't, they're MP starved in around 4/5 minutes and can't do anything after that.

I rarely use Energy Drain, only in those rare instances that I actually need it, But a higher MP pool could help. I think mine is around 4k or so, since Summoners do actually have the lowest overall MP of the magic classes, ironically.

[mvenom]

I rarely use Energy Drain, only in those rare instances that I actually need it, But a higher MP pool could help. I think mine is around 4k or so, since Summoners do actually have the lowest overall MP of the magic classes, ironically.

4k mp as smn? are you drunk or what.

[Lisona]

Well then i must be doing something right or wrong because my MP is never an issuse, rarely do i dip below half.

And shouldn\\\\'t WHM be the only magic job with MP management issues since they don\\\\'t have any decent form of MP recovery, SMN/SCH have Aetherflow and Energy Drain, and BLM have Umbral Ice, WHM only have Shroud of Saints, which everyone agrees sucks.

The MP issues are related to endgame content. MP isn\\'t really an issue outside of FCoB.

[mvenom]

Well then i must be doing something right or wrong because my MP is never an issuse, rarely do i dip below half.

And shouldn't WHM be the only magic job with MP management issues since they don't have any decent form of MP recovery, SMN/SCH have Aetherflow and Energy Drain, and BLM have Umbral Ice, WHM only have Shroud of Saints, which everyone agrees sucks.

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nt/category/4/
Guy havent done even Turn5, so yea. Dont talk about things u dont know about.

[Kuwagami]

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nt/category/4/
Guy havent done even Turn5, so yea. Dont talk about things u dont know about.

no need to be an ass about it. He was most certainly genuinely saying that he hadn't encountered any MP problems yet.

Eloah, you should have around 3k MP as a SMN, which is really laughable when you start high end content (fights lasting around 10 mins with little to no downtime to regen you MPs)

[Eloah]

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nt/category/4/
Guy havent done even Turn5, so yea. Dont talk about things u dont know about.

Wow, what a DICK MOVE looking up my achievements; lets do that for everyone on the forums and tell them they don't know what they are talking about simply based on their achievements. Plus you are assuming that the achievements on THIS CHARACTER line up with my own, couldn't I have another character on another account, or have tried FCOB on a friends account. You don't know, so don't tell me to not talk about things I don't know. I am aware that a majority of you were talking about coil, so I never mentioned it, I only said "I HAVEN'T HAD ANY MP ISSUES". Oh and as for why I haven't cleared T5 yet, as you were so kind enough to point out; you should do that for eveyone you feel doesn't know what they are talking about. Anyway, I've been busy helping FC members and friends reach end game content and getting better gear, how dare I. Because coil is so much easier than CT, I should've focused more on that I guess. But what do I know, I HAVEN'T CLEARED T5 YET!

EDIT: Oh, and FYI, I blocked that page now. But maybe should find an accomplishment you haven't done and post about it. But I would never do that to a fellow player, since I know it's about having fun, not how much you've accomplished.

no need to be an ass about it. He was most certainly genuinely saying that he hadn't encountered any MP problems yet.

Eloah, you should have around 3k MP as a SMN, which is really laughable when you start high end content (fights lasting around 10 mins with little to no downtime to regen you MPs)

1: Thank you for defending me, I appreciate it.

2: I wasn't trying to say my MP is 4k or more, it's maybe about 3500-3800, I think. I can't really remember, but I know it's closer to 4k than 3k, unless I'm just being hopeful, lol. But I don't think it's too important to look at right now. As you indicated, and someone so "kindly" pointed out, MP management in FCOB is more daunting, and I have yet to experience it.

Edit: I am adding this because i know it will come back to bite me if someone decides to look up my character and post how much MP I have as a Summoner. My actual MP, when not in a dungeon is 3114. I don't know if I was mixing up the 3- from Summoner and the -550 from Scholar, or if I only paid attention to my MP when I'm in a dungeon, when it is usually raised by a percentage, like 10% or so, either way I was wrong and my MP is closer to 3k as Kuwagami indicated.