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  1. #31
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    It's 7.25 MP/PIE for smn, right? (or maybe just a flat 7, I forget)

    Between relic and 110 crafted gear, you can add +169 PIE. That is well over 4k without touching your 30 bonus attributes.
    Thank you!
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    Last edited by Eloah; 02-05-2015 at 01:48 AM.

  2. #32
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    alsims2007's Avatar
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    Bathu'a Silver'al
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    Famfrit
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I'm glad this thread was made to hopefully finally clear up this misconception.
    Titan- solo (obviously)
    Garuda- aoe/ slight mp management
    Ifrit- single target dps

    Raging strikes cooldown is just too long to make garuda a better choice. She is by far the better aoe pet. Bane/contagion combo plus her higher damage from magical attacks is far superior to ifrits physical damage plus an Autoattack on 1 enemy
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  3. #33
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by alsims2007 View Post
    I'm glad this thread was made to hopefully finally clear up this misconception.
    Titan- solo (obviously)
    Garuda- aoe/ slight mp management
    Ifrit- single target dps
    tbh, I'd prefer ifrit for AoE situation (dungeon usually, I don't raid with my SMN) because his skills are all AoE based. Monsters do not live long enough to justify the use of contagion most of the time
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  4. #34
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    Osmond's Avatar
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    Character
    Danielle Osmond
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Contagion as a regular ability can help SMNs alot at the same time increase their DPS if they switch from garuda to ifrit due to him being buffed patches ago.
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  5. #35
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    Tayolynn's Avatar
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    Character
    Tayolynn Medfazyre
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 72
    I just use Garuda so no one will bitch at me about, being noob or not know what they're doing. I'd like to use Ifrit-egi for the dps, but last time I did that some a-hole called me out about it and nagged me to use Garuda saying, "Why aren't you using Garuda, Garuda gives more dps blah blah blah."

    Using Garuda = no one bitches
    Using any other egi's = someone will bitch

    So in conclusion: I use Garuda to shut up the a-hole crowd.
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  6. #36
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    ShaolinMike's Avatar
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tayolynn View Post
    I just use Garuda so no one will bitch at me about, being noob or not know what they're doing. I'd like to use Ifrit-egi for the dps, but last time I did that some a-hole called me out about it and nagged me to use Garuda saying, "Why aren't you using Garuda, Garuda gives more dps blah blah blah."

    Using Garuda = no one bitches
    Using any other egi's = someone will bitch

    So in conclusion: I use Garuda to shut up the a-hole crowd.
    I would have told him to parse me or STFU. Seriously though, the legit players in this game are (for the most part) aware of Ifrit's usefulness. I've never gotten a complaint.
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  7. #37
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    Kazumac's Avatar
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    Kha'tan Moapaln
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Tayolynn View Post
    I just use Garuda so no one will bitch at me about, being noob or not know what they're doing. I'd like to use Ifrit-egi for the dps, but last time I did that some a-hole called me out about it and nagged me to use Garuda saying, "Why aren't you using Garuda, Garuda gives more dps blah blah blah."

    Using Garuda = no one bitches
    Using any other egi's = someone will bitch

    So in conclusion: I use Garuda to shut up the a-hole crowd.
    Sadly this is common. It is why I use Garuda when grouping with randoms. I also only do in consequential content with randoms so in those cases it probably wouldn't matter much if I had titan or even no pet out... Lol.
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  8. #38
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    Kikosho's Avatar
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    tbh, I'd prefer ifrit for AoE situation (dungeon usually, I don't raid with my SMN) because his skills are all AoE based. Monsters do not live long enough to justify the use of contagion most of the time
    Uh.. I dunno where you got the idea that all of Ifrit's skills are AoE based but it's just not quite right. His auto attack, Crimson Cyclone, and Burning Strike are all single target. Flaming Crush is a circular AoE but it is centered around Ifrit and has piss poor range so you practically will not hit anything unless they are hugging Ifrit's hitbox. Radiant Shield only works if Ifrit takes damage from the enemies so unless you have him sitting in every AoE attack, it's not going to give you anything. His Enkindle is a conal attack so unless you place him properly, it has a chance to miss a group of adds. Including Enkindle, Garuda is just the better pet for trash packs/adds.
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  9. #39
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by Kikosho View Post
    snip
    is that so ? I always thought his basic skill (not auto attack) was a cleave. Well, I don't know (all in all, I'm not a SMN main and rarely use it out of dungeons), I vaguely remember some consensus back in days when people were saying "Ifrit for trash, Garuda for bosses" and I just stuck with it, guess I was wrong
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  10. #40
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    Tex_Mex's Avatar
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    Tex Mex
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tayolynn View Post
    I just use Garuda so no one will bitch at me about, being noob or not know what they're doing. I'd like to use Ifrit-egi for the dps, but last time I did that some a-hole called me out about it and nagged me to use Garuda saying, "Why aren't you using Garuda, Garuda gives more dps blah blah blah."

    Using Garuda = no one bitches
    Using any other egi's = someone will bitch

    So in conclusion: I use Garuda to shut up the a-hole crowd.
    Haha ya this is really common, but every time someone bitches and you politely tell them that ifrit is higher DPS, they might actually go look and see that it is true! Improving player intelligence, one player at a time!

    lol.... but ya, some people don't know about ifrit yet
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