I think its time BRD get some loving

[DoubleD]

The situation is...keeping a support class on your party is a dead weight.

Turn 13 and talking to parsing dps.

- Mnk: 550
- drg: 540
- blm: 525
- brd: 450
- nin: 545

All same gear and skill, and affected by the same numbers of mechanics.

Without bard dps and bringing another one, you can skip more mechanics,so you can't run of tp because P3 is reached more fast and your tp is recovered before you starved. A good white mage can handle his mana without spamming useless cures.

I killed turn 13 with my bard and i hadn't play any song, only Foe requiem at start and after 2nd divebombs when twintania land.

Each patch, our WD is nerfed and other dps scale well. If SE doesn't change that, maybe the difference between others dps and bards will be 100 dps or more. And the support class would be not necessary

THANK YOU. Finally someone that gets it.

This is what I've been trying to say the whole time. And those are pretty generous numbers for a bard imo that probally only a few elite groups can reach. I consider myself a pretty decent player, but hover around 430ish.

Of course a good bard can out-parse noob players of other DPS classes. Even summoner can.
The real issue is when you compare a GOOD Bard's output to a GOOD other DPS output. The gap is just huge.

When looking at it 450 vs 535 seems small, but do you know how much total damage that is in actual damage numbers??

And look, people saying Foes DPS is the bards... It's not.
If you have a caster in your raid group - singing foes is a DEFAULT. Even on regular 4-man dungeons, ex-primals, crystal tower or whatever, even if you don't have a caster singing foes is still a default!! As long as there's even a WHM or SCH in your party, foes is default. Any bard with Max-MP at the end of the fight should quit and play another job basically. They are "ARCHER". Not bard.

PS - Bards Ballad is only needed during progression and running in between trash mobs to recharge your WHM's holy MP. It isn't needed on any other content outside of emergencies, which ideally should be very seldom. Or if your 8 man party consists of BRD / BRD / SMN / SMN. One bard sing foe, other one sing ballad.

Outside of the latest 8-man raid which can really use Paeon, the only time anyone is happy with a BRD in your party is a BLM, just for foes.

Keep in mind, none of the other other jobs have had their Weapon Damage blatantly nerfed.
The DPS hierarchy was already established with the 115 weapons. No single bard would come close to any other equally skilled / equally geared class. It isn't physically possible. Then 2.4 comes around with 135 weapons and for some reason they nerf our weapons even more!? Why??? This is my main issue. SE already had us on the bottom of the totem pole (which I didn't mind), but I seriously have an issue with them nerfing the Weapon damage even further than it already was.