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  1. #11
    Player
    ChriZirhC's Avatar
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    Chrizirhc Vanih
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Imaging if Bard gets a 10% Physical Damage Buff Song for their lvl 55 or 60 skill in 3.0

    Bard will not only be loved but they will be worshipped.
    very unlikely. people wont go as casters anymore xD
    (1)

  2. #12
    Player
    Ryans's Avatar
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    Grid
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    Character
    Ryans Tardis
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi91 View Post
    really OP?
    almost every group will have special spot for bard and you still ask for buff?

    if you want high number on parse to make your e-peen feel better go play other job
    Seriously... He starts his post by saying Bard is almost certainly a necessity because of it's utility and then asks that it also do more damage on top of that. Talk about getting greedy.
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  3. #13
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    Character
    Double Dee
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    Typhon
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi91 View Post
    really OP?
    almost every group will have special spot for bard and you still ask for buff?

    if you want high number on parse to make your e-peen feel better go play other job
    Peeps need to keep in mind that there is other content out there other than the newest 8 man raid.

    This is an extreme example, but imagine doing something like WOD with 15 bards all equipped with:
    Shiva Bow (Garbage but necessary for people that don't raid / not enough time for Zodiac Weapon)
    Ironworks Chestpiece (Garbage but a lot of bards have this because they think higher IL = stronger)
    Ironworks Leg piece (Garbage but a lot of bards have this because they think higher IL = stronger)

    It will take twice as long to beat it compared to a party comprised of 15 other any other DPS class.

    Bard is weak and keep getting weaker every patch because SE keeps on nerfing the damn WD. The trend of nerfing WD more and more every patch needs to stop.
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  4. #14
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Character
    Chen Kotomi
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ChriZirhC View Post
    +1 WD please.
    This. It won't break the game, or the class, but would bring us at least a LITTLE bit more in-line with other classes in terms of damage. We deal the lowest damage, and that gulf is only increasing. +1 Weapon Damage would make everything nice and kosher.
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  5. #15
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    alimdia's Avatar
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    IF you are wanted in every raid and also do top dps, parties will instead stack bards.
    balance 101
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  6. #16
    Player
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    Double Dee
    World
    Typhon
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    IF you are wanted in every raid and also do top dps, parties will instead stack bards.
    balance 101
    I'm sure the OP isn't demanding to do top DPS. I main bard, and I don't expect to do top DPS. Not even close to top DPS. The DPS gap between equally gear / skill bard and every other job is very very wide. It was already wide enough with IL 115 weapons. They nerfed the 135 bard weapons even more? Why? The gap was already there and it's already worse.

    If you play marauder, i'm sure you've been grouped in 4 man dungeons with 2 bards as the DPS. You get that "Damnit! Bards!" feeling because they are weaker and stuff takes longer to kill.

    I que for dungeons with a knight for tome farming and feel like throwing the controller when I get paired with 2 bards.
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  7. #17
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    KaedrianLiang's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaedrian Kaeng
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    They buff magic damage for other players. That extra damage others produce because of Foe Requiem can be considered your damage. Synergy between classes is often overlooked by players that request buffs for their main class of choice.

    Ranged, Instant cast dps skills, mobile dps, more hp than casters, synergy with casters, brings 3 songs to serious premade raids/trials that guarantee at least 1 slot for brds.
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  8. #18
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Character
    Aeon Rakshasa
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Yes please... and I don't say that because I'm biased for bards. Absolutely not.

    Actually can our weapons of equivalent ilvl do the same damage as all other damage dealing classes? They're always like... six or so points lower. Come on.
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  9. #19
    Player SinisterIsBack's Avatar
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    Character
    Ardon Voltaire
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang View Post
    That extra damage others produce because of Foe Requiem can be considered your damage.
    No no no no just NO. For gods sake, I dont know what schmuck started saying this but it needs to stop... period. We play a song for casters that increases their damage, that damage is not ours, it is still very much theirs. This is like saying the ballad we play for healers, which allows them to keep the dps alive longer and continue to dps.. so a part of that damage should be ours AMIRIGHT?>???


    The removal of the penalty from singing will not make us TOP DPS OMGSORS OMG OMG. It wouldn't really increase our damage that much at all actually. Bards arent singing 100% of any fight. (T13 is a different story, ugh)

    However, with the way final coil is, monks and warriors are pretty damn handy also for their debuffs arent they? Lets reduce their damage by 20% while those abilities are up? Sounds good yea?

    Yea, I am also for +1 - +3 WD --- Yep, I went their
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    Last edited by SinisterIsBack; 02-03-2015 at 03:47 PM.

  10. #20
    Player Able's Avatar
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    Character
    Alinda Thorn
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Like someone else said, SMN is first in line for a buff. Bards are a necessity to every group running final coil. I don't see a buff happening.
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