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  1. #61
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    Nova_Dresden's Avatar
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    Nova Dresden
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie28334 View Post
    I don't think the loot system is as bad as some people make it out to be unless you obsess about the need of having to have the best stuff rather than enjoying the game and reaping the rewards as a bonus.
    Not entirely. I know I'll never have the best gear, but I will have the best that I can get. My SCH has all the Poetics gear, but in the process of upgrading into that gear I lost a LOT of crit moving from ilvl 100 to 120. Like seriously, a lot of freaking crit. The healing skirt in WoD would be a massive improvement for me, but all I see is DRG, DRG, DRG, MNK, Tank, DRG, DRG, Caster...... Never healer. But I see players running everywhere with that item on and hear complaints that that is all that drops in their runs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    Just did a WoD run.... 1 BRD drop and 4... yes FOUR, Tank drops... and there can only be maximum of 3 Tanks rolling!! ):<
    How did you get 5 drops in a 4 drop raid? And there can only be a maximum of 1 tank rolling since each party gets their own loot chest with no competition from the other two parties.

    Quote Originally Posted by niwaar View Post
    1) Drop 6 items that can be rolled on by the ENTIRE 24 person alliance per encounter with duplicates .

    2) Drop 2 items per encounter that can not be duplicates.

    3) Add at LEAST 2 more encounters to split the possible drops across more encounters.

    Personally I would do both 2 and 3.
    I would definitely prefer #3 out of those, or just make the raid a single chest raid. Have to clear the entire raid then all drops are in one chest. Prevents the whole "OMG, I should waited to roll on that" and reduces people bailing mid raid because their item didn't drop.
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  2. #62
    Player Skyl1n3's Avatar
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    Sky Lionheart
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Nova_Dresden View Post
    How did you get 5 drops in a 4 drop raid? And there can only be a maximum of 1 tank rolling since each party gets their own loot chest with no competition from the other two parties.
    That's how bad it is that I even forget how many Tank drops there have been... Over 30 runs and I've seen and rolled on only ONE piece of NIN gear (Legs from CoD), 50% of the rest is Tank, 20% MNK, 20% Caster and some rare DRG drops.

    It's as if the game knows what you main therefore you ain't gettin' it.
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  3. #63
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    Urtear's Avatar
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    Ultear Milkovich
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Just logged from game because got tired of WoD drop table. All week, loot has been down right pathetic. Not "waaah, I didn't get what I wanted" but rather nobody in my alliances did. RNGesus has been finding the one class that ISN'T in your party, and that's the loot that drops. No Nin or Brd? That's what's gonna drop. No one wants to waste their weekly roll, loot goes to waste. First 2 times, you can sum it up as s#it happens, but 5, 6, 8 straight runs? multiple days? That's some of that billy-jack bulls#it.

    Unless I'm mistaken, in Coils, loot was indeed random, but it was random for whichever classes your party compromised of. eg: No Brd drop if no Brd in pty. Why isn't/wasn't the CT raids like this?
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    From other people's point of view, I look like a monster. I'm a stupid woman who imagines she can create a happy life by piling up her sins

  4. #64
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    Fenral's Avatar
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    W'fharl Tia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Urtear View Post
    Unless I'm mistaken, in Coils, loot was indeed random, but it was random for whichever classes your party compromised of. eg: No Brd drop if no Brd in pty. Why isn't/wasn't the CT raids like this?
    You're mistaken. It's pretty common to see loot in Coil for the one class nobody plays, for weeks on end even. With a weekly lockout on clears, it's entirely possible, if "unlikely," for an entire static to go months without a substantial upgrade to their gear. In effect, you can be held back on gear progression for reasons totally unrelated to player skill.
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  5. #65
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    OP doesn't know what random means. If you flip a coin 29 times and each are heads, the 30th still has a 50/50 shot of being heads.

    Assuming there is no drop weighted more than others (example: healer and mage), you have a 1/7 shot of it dropping. Talk to the people that did 50 AV for their zodiac drop about their supposed "1/9 shot on the drop." Talk to a crafter that NQs @ 99% or fails 45 straight 11% chance melds.

    It's random. Every time it doesn't drop does not increase the chance the next time.
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  6. #66
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    AniCelestine's Avatar
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    Ani Celestine
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    or fails 45 straight 11% chance melds.
    Or 25 times 45% chance meld



    Or 10 fails in row on 70% chance action on crafting (pretty sure everyone even slightly into crafting knows this one)
    /wave
    /me

    But yes, there should be a "3 tokens for a item, 1 token per week+weekly loot" or something similar could be all right. Or just let us farm those 30+ (because we have nothing else to do...) WoD runs SE.
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    but rather to prevent HP from reaching 0
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Or getting NQ with a 98% chance of HQ (I've had this happen so many times. Any time I do not get 100%, I automatically assume I'm screwed)
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  8. #68
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    Ghanima Leternelle
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    If I want a piece for my PLD, I know I need to play my SCH. With forever queues for tanks, I find it faster to greed on every tank piece I see with my healer than even trying to tank this place. And if I queue with a premade, I only see BRD/NIN and healer gear dropping. I want my chest, it's been 3 weeks now x.x
    On the bright side, I got the minion. She's awesome.
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  9. #69
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    FranSeara's Avatar
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    Fran Seara
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    Ultros
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    Oh look another RNG didn't work for me, fix it for ME NOW thread. You wanted to farm for one specific drop knowing the odds would not be in your favor.
    lol, love this Cyoung! Why not just come with a shopping cart. When I do Wob, I want BLm gear I get Whm gear. RNG I take what I can get.
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    Femke Fisker
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 56
    I missed three 98% Umbral's on the same node/attempt in south shroud last week. -_-
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