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    Quote Originally Posted by HeroSamson View Post
    I know I wouldn't like to hear people breathing down my neck about my damage or how I play that gets on my nerves and really people should shut their mouth and play their own damn game.
    You do not pay anyones bill to make that choice for them.
    So, if I level a character in Cactuar, then follow you into as many dungeons as I can only to /afk /follow for the duration of the dungeon, you would shut your mouth and play your own damn game, because it's not your bill to make that choice for me? >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    So, if I level a character in Cactuar, then follow you into as many dungeons as I can only to /afk /follow for the duration of the dungeon, you would shut your mouth and play your own damn game, because it's not your bill to make that choice for me? >_>
    See, this is you taking it to the extreme, because in your example, you are not playing the game. and on top of that , you are harassing the other players in doing what you are giving an example of. Stop being a dick. My question to all these people that are saying a parser is "needed" in this game...have you stopped playing the game? Actually, i have a better idea SE...make a server thats for parser only and send all the elites and etc there..like a hardcore server....they can play with their own kind, yell at each other, and etc. But of course, you would only need one server for that group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QiLymePye View Post
    See, this is you taking it to the extreme, because in your example, you are not playing the game. and on top of that , you are harassing the other players in doing what you are giving an example of. Stop being a dick. My question to all these people that are saying a parser is "needed" in this game...have you stopped playing the game?
    No, I've become better at the game. And to all the people afraid of being told how to play, or whatever else...I don't have a parser, but when I started doing Second Coil back in 2.3, I was parsing only barely at 300 as a DRG. When I was told that, and was presented with a new rotation, I accepted it, instead of refusing help. I wasn't serious about the end-game, but why would I refuse advice on how to become better? What sense does that make, at all? Because I don't want to improve? Just because you 'can' stay at passable levels doesn't mean that constructive criticism is bad. Most people who use parsers either use it for personal betterment, progression, or competition on a personal level, and if they use it to try and make you better, that isn't a bad thing.

    Also- The mental image you should get is a child who has a parent telling them that if they would just switch up how they do x task, they might have an easier time, and that child pouting because their parent offered advice. Because that's what it sounds like when people say that they're fine playing the game they want to, and they don't want others telling them how to play. Change your mindset. Instead of looking at that as someone telling you how to play the game, look at it as an open hand, or invitation, to begin fully understanding what you're experiencing. There's a blacklist feature for a reason, people who would harass you with this.

    You need a parser if you're going to do end-game content, and want to complete it without wasting time. You already have to work through learning mechanics, placement, and many other things. The last thing you want to deal with is someone not pulling their own weight, or missing marks for DPS without knowing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QiLymePye View Post
    See, this is you taking it to the extreme, because in your example, you are not playing the game. and on top of that , you are harassing the other players in doing what you are giving an example of. Stop being a dick.
    It is me taking it to the extreme, because the justification of "you don't pay anyone's bill" is no justification at all. I may not be paying the bill of the person wiping us with low dps, but they aren't paying the bills of the 7 people whose time they're wasting. By the logic of people asking for no parsers, it's just fine for one person to waste the time of 7 others, but god forbid you ask them to step up their dps, because you don't pay their subscription.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    It is me taking it to the extreme, because the justification of "you don't pay anyone's bill" is no justification at all. I may not be paying the bill of the person wiping us with low dps, but they aren't paying the bills of the 7 people whose time they're wasting. By the logic of people asking for no parsers, it's just fine for one person to waste the time of 7 others, but god forbid you ask them to step up their dps, because you don't pay their subscription.
    Preach woman, preach! D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    So, if I level a character in Cactuar, then follow you into as many dungeons as I can only to /afk /follow for the duration of the dungeon, you would shut your mouth and play your own damn game, because it's not your bill to make that choice for me? >_>
    What does that have to do with having a parser now you're just making up things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeroSamson View Post
    What does that have to do with having a parser now you're just making up things.
    They're pointing out the holes in your argument by offering an example using your logic. You can't invalidate someone else's opinions or thoughts just by saying, "You don't pay my bills." You pay a sub-fee, but so does everyone else that plays this game. Anyone could redirect that argument right back at you, which is precisely what Aria did.
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    Last edited by Nominous; 02-01-2015 at 06:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nominous View Post
    They're pointing out the holes in your argument by offering an example using your logic.
    Zero holes, people will try and bend and twist things to make themselves look like parser's are good for those types of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeroSamson View Post
    Zero holes, people will try and bend and twist things to make themselves look like parser's are good for those types of things.
    /sigh

    You: I don't want people telling me how to play my job. You don't pay my sub fees!
    Me: I'll just follow you around not doing any damage. You don't pay my sub fees!
    Qi: That's taking it to an illogical extreme.
    Me: It's me taking it to an extreme to point out that not paying sub fees is no justification for wasting someone's time.
    You: What does this have to do with parsing?

    Answer: It has everything to do with wasting people's time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
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    1. Correct if I don't do my job kick me.
    2. Again that sounds like something you kick for not using a parser and radar would tell you he's not with you, don't need a parser for that and you have eyes I am sure you can see him not attacking also how would you follow me around?
    3. lol what
    4. as I said nobody is wasting your time the game is going to be here tomorrow next day and as long as SE wants it to, the content is here and if someone is wasting your time then kick them for the reasons you stated if they rejoin leave you do not need parser for that.

    Answer: your answer is kick them or leave and you do not need a parser for that, its no reason to have a parser.
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