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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappah View Post
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    they said they were considering a parser (possibly on the striking dummies) but only for your own DPS readouts because they feel too many elitists would ruin the game for others if they made an official parser that sees everyones DPS. so unless being able to only parse your own DPS is what you want I wouldn't count on it happening.
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    /supporting official ingame parser.

    A parser should be a mandatory starting point for any player (and later a well needed friendly tool), it could show your weakness and force yourself on self-improvement against various enemies during your learning path.
    The way you will dodge in X fight or learn to coordinate your movements will then be based on the training you dedicated to your DPS, so you better start with solid bases.

    Keep in mind that parsers are not cheating tools, a parser will not do the work for you, it doesn't think, it will not teach you how to dodge, it will not tell you when using a specific CD at a precise moment, it doesn't forgive your mistakes.
    It will just show you a possible weak spot within your gameplay in order to solve it by your own.

    If there was no DPS check fights in FFXIV, I would say... As long that your rotation is correct and you do fine with dodging / movements, we could be like "eh, who care, let's keep it this way"
    But that's not the case, FCOB and some other trials proved once again that tight DPS check fights are a strong and important point when the DEVs are actually designing contents. A parser is a necessity in your learning progression for them.
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    Last edited by Atomnium; 02-01-2015 at 08:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomnium View Post
    /supporting official and personal ingame parser.

    A parser should be a mandatory starting point for any player.
    I stopped reading after this. How about the rest of you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycelle View Post
    I stopped reading after this. How about the rest of you?
    Although if you were aiming to be really good in your DPS, I'd find it hard to believe you can do so without the assistance of a parser. So I guess anyone who's trying to be the best of their class in DPS, it would be mandatory which is probably factually true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Although if you were aiming to be really good in your DPS, I'd find it hard to believe you can do so without the assistance of a parser. So I guess anyone who's trying to be the best of their class in DPS, it would be mandatory which is probably factually true.
    I'd say anyone who's aiming to be good at their DD job has at least checked someone who uses parser how their DPS is. Otherwise they would have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycelle View Post
    I stopped reading after this. How about the rest of you?
    Yea I did too because it means the rest of the post is probably correct and on point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Yea I did too because it means the rest of the post is probably correct and on point.
    Most of the content in this game does not require BiS, does not require perfect rotations and does not require anything more than generic levels of DPS. It only really comes into play during some EX trials and some higher end raids where DPS checks plays bigger part. Now maybe because you live in that bubble of farming such EX and raid content that you have become blind to the what is outside that bubble but if they add a personal DPS checking target dummy (which only that player can see their DPS and of which cannot see anyone else's to avoid much of the harassment that goes with party wide parsers) it should be OPTIONAL and not mandatory to use that feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Most of the content in this game does not require BiS, does not require perfect rotations and does not require anything more than generic levels of DPS. It only really comes into play during some EX trials and some higher end raids where DPS checks plays bigger part. Now maybe because you live in that bubble of farming such EX and raid content that you have become blind to the what is outside that bubble but if they add a personal DPS checking target dummy (which only that player can see their DPS and of which cannot see anyone else's to avoid much of the harassment that goes with party wide parsers) it should be OPTIONAL and not mandatory.
    Yes, let's embrace mediocrity. Excellence is a sin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Yes, let's embrace mediocrity. Excellence is a sin!
    Rather play a game where the developers allow players to enjoy the game how they wish to do so within some basic guidelines such as rules to stop harassment, cheating and such than play one that follows your tyrannical dictatorship stepping on anyone who plays differently to yourself and forcing them into a single play style, your desired play style via mandatory DPS checks on everyone, even those who do not care for the small amount of content in this game that would even require such DPS checks.

    Thank god your not in charge of design decisions in this game. If you were in charge of design decisions for this game, it would crash and die off much like Wildstar. The hardcore raiders like yourself are a microscopic fraction of this player base and as such the amount of content for that minority is also smaller, to try and enforce your hardcore and extreme views onto everyone else would be the death of this game as it has been with other MMO's.

    If a DPS check target dummy was put into the game in which can only see your own DPS to avoid harassment it should be optional and not mandatory, the amount of content that would even come close to requiring use of such in a mandatory way is very tiny comparatively to the amount of content in this game in general and the fraction of the player base who hold hardcore and extreme views similar to your own being also very tiny minority of the overall player base.

    Forcing mandatory use by the tiny minority onto the majority of players is not the best way forward, forcing the use because of the tiny amount of content that would make use of it is also not the right way to do things compared to the majority of content which is does not. If you cannot see that then I advise you broaden your mind and come out of your bubble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Yes, let's embrace mediocrity. Excellence is a sin!
    That's reality though. You don't need to be perfect to progress, not as it pertains to personal DPS at any rate. So the argument that parsing should be mandatory for dps(and let's be honest, it isn't mandatory to parse in order to be great as a DD), is already flawed because it's not necessary.

    If it's completely arbitrary, it's certainly not necessary, and should never become mandatory.

    The point being made is "It should be completely optional, only available outside of encounters, and a completely solo affair".

    You can't complain about that. You get what you want, and only people who wish to be parsed will be parsed.

    You all may not be self aware, but it appears this game's director knows exactly the kind of people some of you are. Which is why the only possibility he left open was what has been outlined already, a personal parsing dummy.

    After all, if what you're REALLY concerned about is being excellent, you have absolutely no need to parse others.
    But again, let's be honest, that's not what you want it for.

    You'd honestly think no one cleared anything prior to illegal parsers being used, but they did. They most certainly did.
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