Yes or No.Craft Mastery Limit.

[Zkieve]

These polls hold zero value for either side of the argument on limits, because we have no facts to base a poll on. All we have is the word 'mastery'. Nothing else. Just that. There is no informed voting here.

it holds value to the developers if they ever are smart enough to look at what their player base want.
if they think (in the current state) a money maker mechanic is better than what their player base wants , well then i have nothing more to say.

You think the forums are just to complain about how stupid the person next to you is ? . No the forums are for guides and to help make the game better for the majority of players , since you can never please everyone.

[mysterytaru]

it holds value to the developers if they ever are smart enough to look at what their player base want.
if they think (in the current state) a money maker mechanic is better than what their player base wants , well then i have nothing more to say.

You think the forums are just to complain about how stupid the person next to you is ? . No the forums are for guides and to help make the game better for the majority of players , since you can never please everyone.

No, it doesn't. We don't even know what they mean, let alone how far along it is. We don't know what it entails, if anything, at this point. You're tilting at windmills and jumping at shadows here. You have no facts to base a poll or opinion on, and spouting how it 'helps the devs, herpdederp' is horse crap. You can't call it anything, let alone a moneymaker, until you have facts. FACTS. Not this 'I think' or 'I believe' stuff you keep spouting off. This thread is actually worse than a religious debate at this point and serves no purpose other than as a vehicle for misinformation.

PS: What's the 'current state' of this mechanic? Do tell.

[Zkieve]

No, it doesn't. We don't even know what they mean, let alone how far along it is. We don't know what it entails, if anything, at this point. You're tilting at windmills and jumping at shadows here. You have no facts to base a poll or opinion on, and spouting how it 'helps the devs, herpdederp' is horse crap. You can't call it anything, let alone a moneymaker, until you have facts. FACTS. Not this 'I think' or 'I believe' stuff you keep spouting off. This thread is actually worse than a religious debate at this point and serves no purpose other than as a vehicle for misinformation.

PS: What's the 'current state' of this mechanic? Do tell.

you dont get it , ill try one more time.

The current state is when they decide to add mastery they have enough feed back on what the player base wants based on all of OUR speculations.

is it really that hard to understand.

ALSO.
Once an idea have been put into place and put in development THERE IS NO TURNING BACK.

i rather prevent that with my limited resources , that are just freedom of speech.

if you dont understand this , then i have no other way to explain it to you.

edit: do you really think when they say ok we gonna do this, and release patch note they gonna remake it no matter how much uproar we make ?
maybe in a different game. For this one is to late.We already late with development.

[mysterytaru]

you dont get it , ill try one more time.

The current state is when they decide to add mastery they have enough feed back on what the player base wants based on all of OUR speculations.

is it really that hard to understand.

ALSO.
Once an idea have been put into place and put in development THERE IS NO TURNING BACK.

i rather prevent that with my limited resources , that are just freedom of speech.

if you dont understand this , then i have no other way to explain it to you.

No. YOU don't get it. You keep talking about the 'current state' of this mechanic calling it a 'moneymaker mechanic' etc etc. 'Current' means 'as it is right now' or 'for the foreseeable future.' You DON'T KNOW what the state is. You can't give feedback on something you know nothing about. Period.

[Zkieve]

No. YOU don't get it. You keep talking about the 'current state' if this mechanic calling it a 'moneymaker mechanic' etc etc. 'Current' means 'as it is right now' or 'for the foreseeable future.' You DON'T KNOW what the state is. You can't give feedback on something you know nothing about. Period.

okay like i said , i can speculate about whatever i want so ill continue to speculate about what mastery is and how i would like it to be.
Dont like it, move along.think is useless dont vote . im perfectly fine with that.
but your opinion aint better than anyone else. do you read the op like i said ? do i have to quote it ?
ok ,


We don't know how or when , all is pure speculation.

Would you be okay with only 1 mastered* crafting class.

*whatever that is.


It only looks to me you want to discredit the poll value because your side is loosing .

[mysterytaru]

okay like i said , i can speculate about whatever i want so ill continue to speculate about what mastery is and how i would like it to be.
Dont like it, move along.

Speculating is one thing. You're doing more than that. Did you forget your misinformation spreading about the system in all your other posts and the fact that you started this as a poll on whether layers liked the system?

[Zkieve]

Speculating is one thing. You're doing more than that. Did you forget your misinformation spreading about the system in all your other posts and the fact that you started this as a poll on whether layers liked the system?

You must be mistaken me for somebody else.
im done speaking to you, since you only want to discredit my opinion when i already have admited since the very first moment it was all speculation.

I dont feel better for winning a forum battle , i just dont care.You win 10 internetz, the poll stays for whoever wants to see it as i do.

[Razor]

you dont get it , ill try one more time.

The current state is when they decide to add mastery they have enough feed back on what the player base wants based on all of OUR speculations.

is it really that hard to understand.

ALSO.
Once an idea have been put into place and put in development THERE IS NO TURNING BACK.

i rather prevent that with my limited resources , that are just freedom of speech.

if you dont understand this , then i have no other way to explain it to you.

I am usually good about lurking after tidbits of information on this game and yet I haven't encountered anything referring to limiting crafting in anyway. I'd like to know
1) Where did you(/others?) find this information that the dev team is considering this.
2) In what context/translation/validity is this information confirmed?

I'm all for preemptive planning but if this is based off some snippet from a translated interview/article then you're just wasting your allotted "freak out" time for the week. Can we get one of the community reps to confirm or deny that the dev team is even considering this at all?

[mysterytaru]

I am usually good about lurking after tidbits of information on this game and yet I haven't encountered anything referring to limiting crafting in anyway. I'd like to know
1) Where did you(/others?) find this information that the dev team is considering this.
2) In what context/translation/validity is this information confirmed?

I'm all for preemptive planning but if this is based off some snippet from a translated interview/article then you're just wasting your allotted "freak out" time for the week. Can we get one of the community reps to confirm or deny that the dev team is even considering this at all?

The 'source' was someone on 2ch reading a snippet from the new Famitsu FFXIV Summer 2011 mag that's just out. Know one knows what it actually said. Just what some 2ch is saying. The thread with Rein's translations of the 2ch thread is here. Just follow the links in the OP to find it.

[Zkieve]

I am usually good about lurking after tidbits of information on this game and yet I haven't encountered anything referring to limiting crafting in anyway. I'd like to know
1) Where did you(/others?) find this information that the dev team is considering this.
2) In what context/translation/validity is this information confirmed?

I'm all for preemptive planning but if this is based off some snippet from a translated interview/article then you're just wasting your allotted "freak out" time for the week. Can we get one of the community reps to confirm or deny that the dev team is even considering this at all?

is all pure speculation. did you missed the op to ?.