The Hunt Public Shaming Needs to end

[Thayos]

A reputation is not earned from only repeat 'accusations', people are blacklisted on the first 'accusation' in almost all cases

That's because all these shouts ever are is such, they are not proof anyone did what was claimed and they are not evidence of someone doing what they are accused of doing.

If multiple people see someone do something, then no additional proof is needed. This isn't a complex issue like a murder trial or witch hunt... this is literally, did you see that toon walk up to the mob and face-pull it, or did you see that toon walk up and shield lob/voke/whatever it? And then did the mob claim to that person? It's pretty simple.

As for reputations, I've never seen anyone on Hyperion get a bad reputation for early pulling once. Heck, I did it once on accident... I apologized in /shout, there were no nasty /tells or /shouts, and everything was cool. It's only the people who do it again and again who make themselves negatively known.

Also, for someone who seems so concerned with "proof," it's pretty bold of you to say that "people are blacklisted on the first 'accusation' in almost all cases." Now THAT's something that you'll never be able to prove, and I highly doubt it's true.

[Snugglebutt]

If multiple people see someone do something, then no additional proof is needed. This isn't a complex issue like a murder trial or witch hunt... this is literally, did you see that toon walk up to the mob and face-pull it, or did you see that toon walk up and shield lob/voke/whatever it? And then did the mob claim to that person? It's pretty simple.

As for reputations, I've never seen anyone on Hyperion get a bad reputation for early pulling once. Heck, I did it once on accident... I apologized in /shout, there were no nasty /tells or /shouts, and everything was cool. It's only the people who do it again and again who make themselves negatively known.

Outliers or your saying haven't seen it on your server (which I do not believe personally) is not evidence of it not happening either elsewhere or when your not present, I personally have seen and known people who get accused despite not even being on the same map, in every single case I know of they get abuse through tells, they get harassed and a lot of times get blacklisted (you do not have to believe me just like I do not believe your comment above). I have been part of hunts where people have done such shouts despite that person not being present when was actually pulled, the people who never saw who pulled jump on the bandwagon and harass the innocent person, many times I have seen this. As have others in this thread mentioned seeing such happen.

I have seen an innocent person who happened to be near the mob doing other things when the mob targeted them after spawning and everyone nearby jumped in attacking the mob then accused the person of pulling despite not even doing so on purpose or even intending to take part in the hunt, they got abuse thrown at them. Hunt mobs do not need to be attacked to be pulled and being in the wrong place at the wrong time is enough to be accused of pulling early. All these things happen and none of these things are acceptable, they should not be treated as casualties of war and they should not be harassed just because some idiot shouted their name followed by an accusation.

I have been part of quite a few hunt linkshells and people almost always get blacklisted in those by people within when they get accused and word spreads through the linkshell of that accusation, that is what I mean by saying almost always blacklisted. Can I say always happens everywhere, every time, no. I have not been in every hunt linkshell or can see what everyone within does but I have been in quite a few and read/seen most people within those blacklist on the accusation alone, hence why said almost all and not all.

The context is almost all linkshells and hunt parties I have been in, not all hunt parties or linkshells that exist everywhere. Granted I should of been more clear about that comment but it really doesn't take much to realize I was referring to what I have seen/experienced despite the fact I could of worded it better. As I said I will report anyone I see doing such shouts under the report harassment section to GM's in game because it is a fact that is what such shouts are. They are intended to cause abuse, harassment and mob rule punishment to anyone who gets 'accused' by those who do such shouts as a way to make them suffer such abuse in an effort to correct their ways despite being just based on just an accusation they did something you do not like.

I would also like to point out the irony of NyarukoW (the person I was actually talking to in that previous comment) who in this thread is against mob rule on the kicking out of players from groups and dungeons yet in this thread is for mob rule when it comes to hunts. There is an element of hypocrisy at play which I do not approve of in that regard.