The Hunt Public Shaming Needs to end

[Yukiko]

@Kinseykinz: To port from bottom of the map to top is faster than to run the whole way! lower lanoscea as example... So i can not follow your argumentation about "porting is not needed"... Please, enlighten us with your magical knowing the spawn location, it will help! The time you port it is already down because of known reasons, i will not quote all what was said in here again...

[Kinseykinz]

@Kinseykinz: To port from bottom of the map to top is faster than to run the whole way! lower lanoscea as example... So i can not follow your argumentation about "porting is not needed"... Please, enlighten us with your magical knowing the spawn location, it will help! The time you port it is already down because of known reasons, i will not quote all what was said in here again...

Yes, there are some zones that have more than one 'entrance' or port if you will, and that could logically make sense that you were in fact, actually hunting, and missed it. But you know as well as I do that most people who complain about 'early pulls' were nowhere near the zone, nor were they actively hunting that specific target. Furthermore, you had equal chance of that mob spawning near YOU and others getting there late. Again, it's HUNTING. You're supposed to look for the thing....but others should be looking too (ie competition) and he who finds it should get it. You still didn't find it. Sure, you were at least looking for it, but you didn't find it. And if it weren't for that 'shout', you would have kept looking for it, none the wiser that it had spawned...and most def. out the chance at seals. Ironically, they were NICE in /sh ing the location in the first place, totally not their fault (or anyone else's) you didn't arrive before the pull.

Still, sportsmanship still applies. You weren't near it...you had to port to get near it, and obviously somehow someway enough people got near it (and pulled it) quicker than you even arrived. Meaning, there were in fact, people either closer to the area, and more importantly, more than enough people got there before you to down it so quickly. Because if only 1-3 blokes were there and pulled it, and you were in the same zone at time it was called out, and ported instantly, and traveled to the location that mob would still be standing and have enough health for you to feasibly get credit. (if those people weren't dead depending on the Mob).

Regardless, you know as well as I do your scenario happens far less than the more common 'chillin in Uldah crafting etc until I see /l 'mob, location'' ...and these people most def. don't automatically deserve full credit 'just because we want it...so be cool guys be cool'. You want full credit, form a party, and go hunting (and if you're wise don't tell people you found the thing).

So again. You were late. You were unlucky. It happens. Move. On. With. Life.

[Xellos2099]

While I agree "Early puller" is not breaking any kind of rule it is a dickish thing to do specially a lot of cause they do it on purpose. A few days ago people were blaming the GW user as the cause of the issue; it got to the point where the creator added a 30 seconds delay to see what happen. At the end, the creator removed the delay since the same early pull still happen as often as before. Therefore GW was used as a scapegoat, the TS people are as guilty as early pull as gw user.

I think it come to the American mentality of " I find it, I keep it and screw everyone else" even if waiting a few second will not cause any harm as long as the hunt pt build is tank/healer and very small amount of dps. I personally have no issue waiting a small bit for other people to benefit to the hunt. But as long as a bad solo player start attack it intentionally, people will start attacking. Just as an early puller can be a dick to the rest of the people, the people will also have the right to shame him by blisting or just refuse to interact with that player. Even if you decide to df stuff, you need ot pf for harder stuff like final coil and making enemy is not the best way to do this.

[Mahri]

"f*** you, got mine" -- early pullers, who were sort of inevitable after this ridiculous turnout in Hunt participation after the rewards were given a boost.

I like hunts. It's fun doing stuff with a group searching for things out in the world, and the rewards are just icing on the cake. But, it's not fun now. Maybe if they vastly increased the HP pools of hunt marks, things would improve. Right now, most of the people who participate are massively outgeared compared to how these mobs are designed.

For now, save yourself the stress of trying to call out early pullers and just put hunts aside until it calms down, or at least just do it at off-peak hours where you have less of a chance of getting dicked over.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

If people were smart, they'd stop hunting for a while so they don't have to be fighting with the people who want everything right now. As before, the hype will die down.

[Xellos2099]

No single soul is asking for waiting 15 minutes. Often it is 10-15 "seconds" differences. Like I said, early puller made a "choice" to be a troll, they will face the consequence, in one way or another.

[KitanaiKoneko]

No single soul is asking for waiting 15 minutes. Often it is 10-15 "seconds" differences. Like I said, early puller made a "choice" to be a troll, they will face the consequence, in one way or another.

Yeah. wait 10-15 seconds for the guy in /sh, then another one shows up, so you wait 10-15 seconds for him... see where this is going?

[Ashkendor]

No single soul is asking for waiting 15 minutes. Often it is 10-15 "seconds" differences. Like I said, early puller made a "choice" to be a troll, they will face the consequence, in one way or another.

Sure, wait 15 seconds but what about the guy that's 15 seconds after that?

You can't feasibly wait for everyone.

[Xellos2099]

Sure, wait 15 seconds but what about the guy that's 15 seconds after that?

You can't feasibly wait for everyone.

Yes you "CAN't" wait for everyone but when i hear fc mate, saying something is up, port over immediately, I arrive to the spot right as it was killed, several time. What people were asking for was reasonable expectation of travel time if you are not in the zone. Right now, basically unless you are in the zone of pop, the chance of making it on time is low. For example, someone called a time, like for example: A mob is discovered at 2:00, a small group of people arrive at 2:20, a pull time of 2:40 is called, there will always be "one" individual who will start attacking right away as if because a time a call, they will attack it right away just to spite the people who wish to wait for others to arrive. If it was not a diskish thing to do I do not know what is. And here people are trying to justify early pull by saying it is the game mechanic and it is mean to be. Maybe, but the consent of the majority of the people hunting do not mind waiting.