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  1. #221
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    Yet it's not a AoE LB, you can't wipe a party or the majority of it with chain melee LB's, unless you have your oponents being played by dogs and have absolutely no reaction or awareness at all.
    Which is why both LBs need a nerf to their damage. The Aoe LB shouldn't be able to wipe a party, and the melee LB shouldn't be a skill balancer and a free kill for someone less skilled.
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  2. #222
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    Zagam Zixion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    Yet it's not a AoE LB, you can't wipe a party or the majority of it with chain melee LB's, unless you have your oponents being played by dogs and have absolutely no reaction or awareness at all.
    So youre saying that coordination is killing you, well maybe if YOU DID THE SAME you can kill them before you, geesh its not like casters are teh only ones that should work together..... you have 3 dps with bars full? guess what, you just took out 3 healers, the dps will fall in seconds. Learn some basic strat before you call the nerf wagon.
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  3. #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagam View Post
    snip.
    Wait, did I say instant can you find wherever I posted that? You can't heal two consecutive cometeors with AoE heals, even if you had infinite benedictions it doesn't happen fast enough to make someone survive it without having the spell land on a corpse.

    A bullet is not instant, but doesn't mean your reaction time is fast enough to dodge it, and the problem isn't even that it's one LB you are avoiding, it's a barrage of caster LB's. There's a delay in between your action appearing in your screen and it showing it in the ground, and you don't have to be in melee range to cast it, sorry.
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  4. #224
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    Wait, did I say instant can you find wherever I posted that? You can't heal two consecutive cometeors with AoE heals, even if you had infinite benedictions it doesn't happen fast enough to make someone survive it without having the spell land on a corpse.

    A bullet is not instant, but doesn't mean your reaction time is fast enough to dodge it, and the problem isn't even that it's one LB you are avoiding, it's a barrage of caster LB's. There's a delay in between your action appearing in your screen and it showing it in the ground, and you don't have to be in melee range to cast it, sorry.
    No, you said melee takes to long, which so does casting so your whole point is wrong.

    Dear lord just stop already, ive got you to the point where its not the lb itself but the coordination of multiple players, which if you have dps you CAN DO THE SAME THING.
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  5. #225
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    Yukari Hana
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    Which is why both LBs need a nerf to their damage. The Aoe LB shouldn't be able to wipe a party, and the melee LB shouldn't be a skill balancer and a free kill for someone less skilled.
    Right? I'm glad that you agree with me not defending broken mechanics, I'm neither downplaying melee LB's but actually detailing what I do against melee's, as a ranged caster, this obviously doesn't apply with a melee against another closer range dps/tank. Unless you are of course one of those blms that for some bizarre reason decide to run into a group of players cast aetheric field and manage to make a run trip back home unscratched.
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  6. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagam View Post
    No, you said melee takes to long, which so does casting so your whole point is wrong.

    Dear lord just stop already, ive got you to the point where its not the lb itself but the coordination of multiple players, which if you have dps you CAN DO THE SAME THING.
    How can you know if you haven't played melee!?

    See how this goes both ways? but thankfully I have played 5 roles in PvP to know what I'm actually talking about, except bard, I don't have comment of bard and ninja, and I assume so do you.... oh wait.
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  7. #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    How can you know if you haven't played melee!?

    See how this goes both ways? but thankfully I have played 5 roles in PvP to know what I'm actually talking about, except bard, I don't have comment of bard and ninja, and I assume so do you.... oh wait.
    Because I have?

    There is a big difference between playing one and actually knowing how to play it.
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  8. #228
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    I'm still of the opinion that personal limit breaks (Loldrenaline) was the silliest idea of all in Slaughter. Not because healers, tanks, and bards don't get to have much fun with it, but because at least limit break gave an additional reason to have a more balanced party. SquareEnix must have hired Michael Bay as PvP director; clearly all we needed was more, unrestricted explosions.
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  9. #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagam View Post
    Because I have?

    There is a big difference between playing one and actually knowing how to play it.
    Y-you got me, you got me good.

    Good one, you are totally right, I'm a terrible player
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  10. #230
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    Corvus Lament
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    I'm still of the opinion that personal limit breaks (Loldrenaline) was the silliest idea of all in Slaughter. Not because healers, tanks, and bards don't get to have much fun with it, but because at least limit break gave an additional reason to have a more balanced party. SquareEnix must have hired Michael Bay as PvP director; clearly all we needed was more, unrestricted explosions.
    Lmao I couldn't help but to chuckle at that part. I agree with what you are saying though.

    Tank and Healer lb are bad. Even in pve, most players don't use them. I feel they should just be redesigned.
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