The Hunt Public Shaming Needs to end

[MilesSaintboroguh]

If people were smart, they'd stop hunting for a while so they don't have to be fighting with the people who want everything right now. As before, the hype will die down.

[Xellos2099]

No single soul is asking for waiting 15 minutes. Often it is 10-15 "seconds" differences. Like I said, early puller made a "choice" to be a troll, they will face the consequence, in one way or another.

[Yukiko]

@Kinseykinz: Try it on my server and i will try on yours... Talking from sportmanship and then telling active hunters who earned it to be "to late"... *sigh*
But still, what does your argumentation have to do anything about the difference in hardware? S rank dies within secunds and just because some SSD players overpower HDD players you saying those who find it dont deserve to get it? What you are telling me is to stop searching for it because I will most likely be on the wrong end of the map when it spawns (the same i could just wait on ätherite and follow the crowd), well isnt that a bit paradox? Your suggestion is to just give up on hunting.

Edit: i will always tell everyone when i have found something, i am not egoistic and i dont care if "I" get ihe seals, but we are talking from a content system that is broken, not from "me"
Edit2: You know as good as i do, that the thing you were talking (ie competition) is not real, it would be true if you can only hunt solo and if you can not communicate with others, but thats not real.

[Warlyx]

2.3 all over again , shout chat again is filled with ppl raging at each other, WAIT WAIT !$!$! YOU , R!$!$ , !·!$! ect ect ....

didnt u learned nothing SE? /facepalm

[MilesSaintboroguh]

2.3 all over again , shout chat again is filled with ppl raging at each other, WAIT WAIT !$!$! YOU , R!$!$ , !·!$! ect ect ....

didnt u learned nothing SE? /facepalm

That's like asking if Ubisoft ever learned from rushing games out filled with bugs.

[KitanaiKoneko]

No single soul is asking for waiting 15 minutes. Often it is 10-15 "seconds" differences. Like I said, early puller made a "choice" to be a troll, they will face the consequence, in one way or another.

Yeah. wait 10-15 seconds for the guy in /sh, then another one shows up, so you wait 10-15 seconds for him... see where this is going?

[Sapphic]

But how does that even relate to my comment about early pulling being a form of greifing? Yes i know its not really greifing but when you break it down into what its doing to other players, you could class it as greifing.

Because there is no such thing as early pulling!

Thats why, pulling an unclaimed mob is playiing the game and is in within the game rules, waiting xx amount of time before pulling is a player created thing. Also, no matter how long people wait there will always be some who missed it. The person who finds it has the right to pull however and whenever they want, and if they don't pull it, anyone else has the right to pull it however and whenever they want to also because it is unclaimed.

[Sapphic]

Here is how hunts should be. You go to the board like normal and pick up a bounty or mark. You go the location marked by the mark bill ( can be random around area) Right click the mark and activate hunt, this then spawns a mob only for that Person who activated the mark. A bit like leves.

B rank = solo
A rank = 4 man
S rank = 8 man

Marks can also detect when the number of players is either to low..ie for 8 Man and does not count chocobos. And gives a message like requires 8 players, this balances out the harder Ranks and stops chocobo abuse.

It would end prepulling and reseting. It would end all this whining and crying about hunts.

Make it that you pay for the right to hunt them with GC seals, S ranks could be 24 peep and uses FC credits to purchase them.

[Ashkendor]

No single soul is asking for waiting 15 minutes. Often it is 10-15 "seconds" differences. Like I said, early puller made a "choice" to be a troll, they will face the consequence, in one way or another.

Sure, wait 15 seconds but what about the guy that's 15 seconds after that?

You can't feasibly wait for everyone.

[Kinseykinz]

@Kinseykinz: Try it on my server and i will try on yours... Talking from sportmanship and then telling active hunters who earned it to be "to late"... *sigh*
But still, what does your argumentation have to do anything about the difference in hardware? S rank dies within secunds and just because some SSD players overpower HDD players you saying those who find it dont deserve to get it? What you are telling me is to stop searching for it because I will most likely be on the wrong end of the map when it spawns (the same i could just wait on ätherite and follow the crowd), well isnt that a bit paradox? Your suggestion is to just give up on hunting.

Edit: i will always tell everyone when i have found something, i am not egoistic and i dont care if "I" get ihe seals, but we are talking from a content system that is broken, not from "me"
Edit2: You know as good as i do, that the thing you were talking (ie competition) is not real, it would be true if you can only hunt solo and if you can not communicate with others, but thats not real.

Yeah, for the record, I am Legacy. I LIVED on Excalibur until the hunts happened. Because you wanna talk servers where hunts are a crapstorm? Excalibur is your prime example. How bad does Excalibur get you ask. Oh, so bad that as a FC leader, I could be IN MY FC HOUSE CRAFTING and a member of my FC 'early pulls' and I proceed for the next 2 hours in-game to get hate tells about that person, me, our FC, 'you need to control your people' etc. I wasn't even hunting. (over a B rank btw before they became more or less worthless outside your weekly)


Personally, I want the Legacy NM mobs back. Why. Because first come first served. Done. You saw it and could handle it, you pulled it. You didn't handle it, the other group hunting it would laugh at your dead body (not really), and grab it and get their reward. But because THIS version of the game is trying to avoid 'spawn camping' and other nasties that come along with claimed mobs, they allow everyone a shot at it. But allowing everyone a shot at it doesn't mean everyone has a right to have a shot at it. Again, why should someone who wasn't there, and didn't find it automatically deserve full credit?

And no, my suggestion isn't to 'give up' it's to grow a pair and realize that it's supposed to be modestly competitive, not a caring sharing free-for everyone who wants it thing. And that yes, you will be late, and miss things...and that's okay. Move on, get the next one. Also, if people would just start 'killing when enough people show up to logically handle said mob' a lot of your 'slower rig' problems would go away. You'd be able to see it easier, you'd have less people tele'ing into the area slowing your loading times, and you might stand a chance of getting from one end of a zone to another in time to get credit. Why? because if people stopped the 'wait for everyone' expectation, and people just killed them as able/nearby less people would sit in towns waiting for /l 'mob, location' and either 1. Actively hunt more. or as is likely the case once the low hanging fruit is gone, 2. Do something else with their lives. You keep defending the behavior because 'slow rigs' well... that wouldn't matter at all if people weren't leeching off the actions of others, and if the community wasn't accepting this behavior. It's not me who happen-stanced across the mob that's slowing you down....it's the hoarde of people that tele'd in that are. Be mad at them.


Lastly, one thing I knew for sure was happening on Excalibur back when I was still on it was this:

Someone spots mob:
1. They tell their FC/LS
2. They tell the actual Hunt groups LS/TS
3. They wait
4. They announce 1-2 minutes before the established 'pull time' (decided by the official hunt groups typically) in /sh 'mob, location' ....and typically not pull times.

Even on my server now, I'm more apt to know there's a hunt in the area from the sudden influx of /sh inv? or /sh WHM looking for party or /sh hunt party? than by hearing an actual called out location. (Many times, the location is never called out which is fine by me...I'm only 'over-hearing' the intel b/c I'm in the zone doing other things, I don't really deserve to be able to go leech just because 'mob in my zone'). The point, did you ever consider that when you see the /sh in the zone you're in...that the people have already gathered and it's more a 'we found it' than a 'we found it and we're happily waiting for you to arrive' Again though, if everyone would stop expecting to be able to tag it because people wait for them, life would be more pleasant on all servers.

If nothing else, I really wish the 'hunt mentality' would change because the angry /sh spam does NOTHING for the community, or new players impressions of it.