The Hunt Public Shaming Needs to end

[RichardButte]

The solution is and always has been SCALING HP!

Hunt mobs should take ~2 minutes to die, no matter how many players are attacking them. It works in WoW and it can work here.

[Xellos2099]

Sure, wait 15 seconds but what about the guy that's 15 seconds after that?

You can't feasibly wait for everyone.

Yes you "CAN't" wait for everyone but when i hear fc mate, saying something is up, port over immediately, I arrive to the spot right as it was killed, several time. What people were asking for was reasonable expectation of travel time if you are not in the zone. Right now, basically unless you are in the zone of pop, the chance of making it on time is low. For example, someone called a time, like for example: A mob is discovered at 2:00, a small group of people arrive at 2:20, a pull time of 2:40 is called, there will always be "one" individual who will start attacking right away as if because a time a call, they will attack it right away just to spite the people who wish to wait for others to arrive. If it was not a diskish thing to do I do not know what is. And here people are trying to justify early pull by saying it is the game mechanic and it is mean to be. Maybe, but the consent of the majority of the people hunting do not mind waiting.

[PotatoTree]

I feel like if it's dying that fast then you're the one that's late. Critical mass has been reached and the pull is justified.

[Trixxy]

There wouldn't be any public shaming if people weren't such jackasses. I can understand the temptation of pulling early when there are multiple hunts up at once but how often is that the case? It's not a bloody race and if people feel the need to be a prick towards the ones that can't make it in time, they deserve to be publicly shamed and hopefully locked out from future hunt groups.

[Thayos]

Because there is no such thing as early pulling!

There is such a thing as early pulling. But it's a player-made standard that's not against the rules.

If it were just a few people complaining about early pulling, then I'd agree with you that it's not really a thing. However, most people I know in game are upset by all of the early pulling going on.

I'm betting you have no problem with early pulls, and that's totally fine... but much of the playerbase is unified in acknowledging and opposing early pulling, and the only way to be so dismissive about that is to be in complete denial.

[Ashkendor]

they will attack it right away just to spite the people who wish to wait for others to arrive. If it was not a diskish thing to do I do not know what is. And here people are trying to justify early pull by saying it is the game mechanic and it is mean to be. Maybe, but the consent of the majority of the people hunting do not mind waiting.

What makes you say they're just doing it to be dicks? Unless they publicly announce this (and then you could make a case for griefing), I don't see how you could know it. It's more likely that they're just being selfish or unthinking or maybe they just have some other place to be or are bored of waiting. Don't make the mistake of taking it personally; the fact is, they probably don't give enough of a crap about other people to actively be a dick to them. In any case, who gives a crap about what the majority agree to? If I find a hunt mob, I can do whatever the hell I want with it. I can report it to the linkshell. I can attack it and kite it in circles till someone else finds me and reports it to the linkshell. I can call some friends and kill it myself. If you didn't find it, what gives you the right to get credit for it? People seem to feel that they're entitled to get credit on every single hunt mob that pops.

There wouldn't be any public shaming if people weren't such jackasses. I can understand the temptation of pulling early when there are multiple hunts up at once but how often is that the case? It's not a bloody race and if people feel the need to be a prick towards the ones that can't make it in time, they deserve to be publicly shamed and hopefully locked out from future hunt groups.

Quite honestly, I see far more prickish behavior from the people that didn't make it to a mob in time than I do from the so-called early pullers. I've seen shouts that run the gamut from a simple "fuck you" to "die in a fire" and "kill yourself"; there's worse, and I don't care to repeat them here. But seriously? Over 40 Allied Seals? Does missing out on a hunt really justify the level of harassment that's being thrown around in its wake? People need to get over themselves and understand one fundamental truth about hunts. You (and I mean that as a general you, not directed at the person I'm quoting) can't reasonably expect to make it to every mob. If you don't make it or you just get to tag it for minimum credit, shrug and dust yourself off and go hit the next one up. Better luck next time.

Honestly, I'm one of the leeches. I am not actively hunting right now because I'm waiting for things to quiet down a bit. I am, however, a member of a hunt linkshell and I have friends and FC mates that actively hunt. I go out if I see an A rank called that's close to an aetheryte or if there's an S rank up and I'm not doing anything else. Rarely do I get full credit, and I haven't even gotten to the last couple that I've run to. I'm not even mad because I wasn't out actively hunting. Most of the people doing the crying about early pulls are doing the same thing. If you're sitting in North Shroud doing your Ixali dailies, you have absolutely no right to cry when you can't get to Marberry in time.

[Ruri]

Ketchup Chips I hereby shame you

[AdamFyi]

Off-peak hunt hours in Cactuar is pretty civil last I checked. We don't usually encounter such behavior all the time. Then again, most of the hunt linkshells are linked with each other and news spreads pretty fast.

I guess it's because we're trying to be organized so that everyone has the chance for the rewards. Sure, we get some people not getting full credit, but usually we would tell them that something is better than nothing.

So yeah, we do this so that the hunts are well organized and almost everyone can get the highest rewards. Plus it makes it easier to locate the marks since we can keep track of the moment they are found/killed.

I guess for the most part, some people complain about early pulls is not because they didn't try to get to the area as fast as other people - moreso they couldn't genuinely make it in time. I know that when multiple areas are open for a spawn, we have people spread out to search. Now that we can't teleport when we gain any sort of aggro, it's kind of difficult to reach the area in time especially if it is in a different zone and this person is in an enemy stronghold.

[Nephera]

This is the real pvp right here.

[rblyell]

If you think early pulling isn't an issue then you refuse to understand the concept, and stop complaining about others asking for you to be courtesy. And if you are having an issue with early pulls find a better time to do it that isn't as congested, and stop asking for others to be courteous (see this Forum's replies to civil responses).