The Hunt Public Shaming Needs to end

[Thayos]

I don't get the problem here... if people want to play in a way that goes against the norms set by the majority, then why do they care what that majority thinks of them? The OP should just filter out anything that's not FC or LS chat.

[Mynaria]

I've been losing interest in both hunts and progression due to early pull mentality, the ragefests, and the seeming necessity to do hunts for easier progression of gear. I've missed a few hunts thanks to early pullers even when in the same zone hunting, due to the distance i've had to cover to get there with no other option. It's one thing to miss out when you aren't actively hunting and have to teleport to the zone, but missing out when you're in the same area is kinda unfair. I'm not even pissed, i'm just disappointed in SE's choices.

[Kyomagi]

I don't get the problem here... if people want to play in a way that goes against the norms set by the majority, then why do they care what that majority thinks of them? The OP should just filter out anything that's not FC or LS chat.

Game specific mechanic > Mob mentality

[Bluevann]

Game specific mechanic > Mob mentality

Haha sure, that's why Ninja did not become a tank in FFXI, right?

[Ashkendor]

Waiting a couple extra minutes doesn't cost you hundreds of bucks.

I think you missed my point. Neither option is "fair". It's unfair to ask the people already at the mob to wait till everyone shows up when "everyone" includes people with slow rigs that were off doing their Ixali dailies and heard about the call late. It's equally unfair to ask players on PS3 and slower computers to upgrade simply in order to hunt.

[Dererk]

The problem is every one and their mother think they have a right to hunts. Well they don't its every man for them selves a person can go ahead and pull it and they shouldn't get hated on because of it. I'm starting to thing the hunt system is just an experiment to see how bad people go about it till they finally put a better system in Heavensward.

[Yukiko]

@Kinseykinz: To port from bottom of the map to top is faster than to run the whole way! lower lanoscea as example... So i can not follow your argumentation about "porting is not needed"... Please, enlighten us with your magical knowing the spawn location, it will help! The time you port it is already down because of known reasons, i will not quote all what was said in here again...

[Xellos2099]

While I agree "Early puller" is not breaking any kind of rule it is a dickish thing to do specially a lot of cause they do it on purpose. A few days ago people were blaming the GW user as the cause of the issue; it got to the point where the creator added a 30 seconds delay to see what happen. At the end, the creator removed the delay since the same early pull still happen as often as before. Therefore GW was used as a scapegoat, the TS people are as guilty as early pull as gw user.

I think it come to the American mentality of " I find it, I keep it and screw everyone else" even if waiting a few second will not cause any harm as long as the hunt pt build is tank/healer and very small amount of dps. I personally have no issue waiting a small bit for other people to benefit to the hunt. But as long as a bad solo player start attack it intentionally, people will start attacking. Just as an early puller can be a dick to the rest of the people, the people will also have the right to shame him by blisting or just refuse to interact with that player. Even if you decide to df stuff, you need ot pf for harder stuff like final coil and making enemy is not the best way to do this.

[Kinseykinz]

@Kinseykinz: To port from bottom of the map to top is faster than to run the whole way! lower lanoscea as example... So i can not follow your argumentation about "porting is not needed"... Please, enlighten us with your magical knowing the spawn location, it will help! The time you port it is already down because of known reasons, i will not quote all what was said in here again...

Yes, there are some zones that have more than one 'entrance' or port if you will, and that could logically make sense that you were in fact, actually hunting, and missed it. But you know as well as I do that most people who complain about 'early pulls' were nowhere near the zone, nor were they actively hunting that specific target. Furthermore, you had equal chance of that mob spawning near YOU and others getting there late. Again, it's HUNTING. You're supposed to look for the thing....but others should be looking too (ie competition) and he who finds it should get it. You still didn't find it. Sure, you were at least looking for it, but you didn't find it. And if it weren't for that 'shout', you would have kept looking for it, none the wiser that it had spawned...and most def. out the chance at seals. Ironically, they were NICE in /sh ing the location in the first place, totally not their fault (or anyone else's) you didn't arrive before the pull.

Still, sportsmanship still applies. You weren't near it...you had to port to get near it, and obviously somehow someway enough people got near it (and pulled it) quicker than you even arrived. Meaning, there were in fact, people either closer to the area, and more importantly, more than enough people got there before you to down it so quickly. Because if only 1-3 blokes were there and pulled it, and you were in the same zone at time it was called out, and ported instantly, and traveled to the location that mob would still be standing and have enough health for you to feasibly get credit. (if those people weren't dead depending on the Mob).

Regardless, you know as well as I do your scenario happens far less than the more common 'chillin in Uldah crafting etc until I see /l 'mob, location'' ...and these people most def. don't automatically deserve full credit 'just because we want it...so be cool guys be cool'. You want full credit, form a party, and go hunting (and if you're wise don't tell people you found the thing).

So again. You were late. You were unlucky. It happens. Move. On. With. Life.

[Mahri]

"f*** you, got mine" -- early pullers, who were sort of inevitable after this ridiculous turnout in Hunt participation after the rewards were given a boost.

I like hunts. It's fun doing stuff with a group searching for things out in the world, and the rewards are just icing on the cake. But, it's not fun now. Maybe if they vastly increased the HP pools of hunt marks, things would improve. Right now, most of the people who participate are massively outgeared compared to how these mobs are designed.

For now, save yourself the stress of trying to call out early pullers and just put hunts aside until it calms down, or at least just do it at off-peak hours where you have less of a chance of getting dicked over.