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    So... still no word on the stupid "Spell casts interrupted simply by being attacked" issue huh? Glad to see the dev team is really hitting those hot topics!!

    Also, just to note, regardless of these Limit breaks; ranged are going to dominate any battleground where 72 people are fighting in close quarters. Ranged > melee. Common sense folks.
    Amazing how one person who isn't even good at pvp whines about dieing as a melee in a 72 man battleground; gets their way and makes caster get a nerf. God forbid caster is viable in any pvp situation.
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    Last edited by Eibon; 01-26-2015 at 09:35 AM.

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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eibon View Post
    So... still no word on the stupid "Spell casts interrupted simply by being attacked" issue huh? Glad to see the dev team is really hitting those hot topics!!

    Also, just to note, regardless of these Limit breaks; ranged are going to dominate any battleground where 72 people are fighting in close quarters. Ranged > melee. Common sense folks.
    Amazing how one person who isn't even good at pvp whines about dieing as a melee in a 72 man battleground; gets their way and makes caster get a nerf. God forbid caster is viable in any pvp situation.
    really?? any1 can see slaughter mode is really imbalanced atm just look at the scoreboard at the end.. yay lets all just level n play a blm n just use sleep + lb for easy kills lacking any pvp talent whatsoever :P

    and fyi i havent been killed by blm lb yet but even i can see how op n imbalanced it is ffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eibon View Post
    So... still no word on the stupid "Spell casts interrupted simply by being attacked" issue huh? Glad to see the dev team is really hitting those hot topics!!

    Also, just to note, regardless of these Limit breaks; ranged are going to dominate any battleground where 72 people are fighting in close quarters. Ranged > melee. Common sense folks.
    Amazing how one person who isn't even good at pvp whines about dieing as a melee in a 72 man battleground; gets their way and makes caster get a nerf. God forbid caster is viable in any pvp situation.
    About Eibon
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    Class / Level: 50 Black Mage


    No wonder you don't see a problem with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuyaHikari View Post
    About Eibon
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    Class / Level: 50 Black Mage


    No wonder you don't see a problem with it.
    as some1 stated few pages back those it benefits dont see a problem with it.. bet u anything if it was melee with hugely imbalanced LB he/she would be screaming for a fix lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    as some1 stated few pages back those it benefits dont see a problem with it.. bet u anything if it was melee with hugely imbalanced LB he/she would be screaming for a fix lol
    Exactly, lol. Hell, to be honest, if I played a BLM, I wouldn't be asking for a fix for this either. I'd rack up as many wins as I could before the hotfix. That's just how people are though.

    If it's not affecting them in a negative manner, they don't see an issue with it. It's no different than picking a top tier character in a fighting game despite knowing there is a balance coming in a revision in the future. How many people are honestly going to go back to playing a mid tier or low tier character if they just found out the character they're currently playing can get them easy wins with minimal effort?

    I look forward to the fix so we can attempt to have a somewhat balanced experience rather than how it is now where Slaughter is basically BLM vs BLM and seeing who can sleep + nuke the other team first to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuyaHikari View Post
    Exactly, lol. Hell, to be honest, if I played a BLM, I wouldn't be asking for a fix for this either. I'd rack up as many wins as I could before the hotfix. That's just how people are though.

    If it's not affecting them in a negative manner, they don't see an issue with it. It's no different than picking a top tier character in a fighting game despite knowing there is a balance coming in a revision in the future. How many people are honestly going to go back to playing a mid tier or low tier character if they just found out the character they're currently playing can get them easy wins with minimal effort?

    I look forward to the fix so we can attempt to have a somewhat balanced experience rather than how it is now where Slaughter is basically BLM vs BLM and seeing who can sleep + nuke the other team first to win.
    exactly = dull n boring thats why i stopped going til its fixed lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    as some1 stated few pages back those it benefits dont see a problem with it.. bet u anything if it was melee with hugely imbalanced LB he/she would be screaming for a fix lol
    Wasn't that comment meant for melee considering how OP they are in PvP? Melee does have an imbalanced LB. I'm required to wear tank accessories to live through one melee player using a LB on me. So I'm gimping my entire team's healing because one Ninja might get close enough to pop a LB on me. But let's just forget about that and cry about how tough melee has it some more.
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    U'tyada Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    Wasn't that comment meant for melee considering how OP they are in PvP? Melee does have an imbalanced LB. I'm required to wear tank accessories to live through one melee player using a LB on me. So I'm gimping my entire team's healing because one Ninja might get close enough to pop a LB on me. But let's just forget about that and cry about how tough melee has it some more.
    2 melee LBing two targets at the same time can kill 2 people, 2 mages LBing at the same time can kill parties from a safe distance. There's a lot more risk to a melee class, currently in slaughter there's a high risk low reward for melee while for casters it's a low risk high reward. The reason the casters are currently as strong as they are is due to standing in a big group of people being protected from melees, the only one able to counter a mage is a bard.

    Also cast a stoneskin on you and have someone close that can stun, like a PLD and you'll be safe, as a melee I never cast LB on a full HP target as most of the time it is not enough, also as a healer if you're not killed in one shot you'll just heal yourself with benediction and the melee will be slaughtered, learn how to utilize your class and you'll see a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krindor View Post
    2 melee LBing two targets at the same time can kill 2 people, 2 mages LBing at the same time can kill parties from a safe distance. There's a lot more risk to a melee class, currently in slaughter there's a high risk low reward for melee while for casters it's a low risk high reward. The reason the casters are currently as strong as they are is due to standing in a big group of people being protected from melees, the only one able to counter a mage is a bard.

    Also cast a stoneskin on you and have someone close that can stun, like a PLD and you'll be safe, as a melee I never cast LB on a full HP target as most of the time it is not enough, also as a healer if you're not killed in one shot you'll just heal yourself with benediction and the melee will be slaughtered, learn how to utilize your class and you'll see a difference.
    Learn how not to make your argument based on one spell with a FIVE MINUTE COOLDOWN! And yes, when you're just over 3k health a melee can pretty much one shot you. But thank you for telling me what to do IF I survive.

    So to sum it up, a melee LB is not OP because it requires:
    1. the best heal in the game with a 5 minute cooldown
    2. a bodyguard that does practically nothing but wait by me to stun ninja's coming out of stealth
    3. at least 4 slots of vitality gear that is completely useless to me except for one stat.

    Also, it takes one buffed Medica II to heal through a caster's LB. (FYI, Medica II does not have a 5 minute cooldown). I've seen people killed by server lag the last few days. But it's certainly not because the LB is that strong.

    Did I just fall for a troll? I seriously can’t believe you just advised me to cast Stoneskin on myself… Maybe I should put that on my hotbar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    3. at least 4 slots of vitality gear that is completely useless to me except for one stat.
    Get crafted MND accessories, meld Vit onto them. Obviously....

    Also point peeps are making is that you are calling out players who play Melee in slaughter with zero experience yourself of what they face (not talknig what experience you have in other games as that is irrelevant).
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