Ranged DPS dominating Slaughter Mode

[Hiruke]

It's just horrible how melee has a huge disadvantage in slaugher mode. Today I joined a slaugher as Ninja, and I was the only melee dps in my whole alliance. It was filled with BLM, SMN and BRD.

Mage LBs everywhere.

How did SE not see this comming...

But it's pretty amazing how casters are at a huge disadvantage in Secure mode, amirite? I like how no one cares that playing a caster in Secure completely sucks, but oh my god they aren't totally awful in Slaughter so let's make sure melee is the only way to go yet again. It's not like melee can't wreck faces. They can still blow up nearly anyone super quick, especially if they coordinate. Ranged just seems ridiculous because once you have 24 people together, ranged actually has enough dps to (coordinated) murder someone before the healer can heal the bejesus out of them, just like melee could always do. Nerfing Cometeor isn't going to solve this, FYI.

I bet the melees crying are the same ones telling casters to L2P in secure

Fact.

[Geologo]

Mmm I noticed a LOT of BLM in Slaughter mode, expecially in the 72 men version, up to me there they really rule cause of lag (you won't be able to dodge any Cometeor) and using Flare during node is really a easy mode to get random kills, get a buf and repeat to get more buff.

But to be honest I noticed more than a time a brainless play from my enemies, like following you in the middle of your alliance even a tank can't survive, I tried lot of classes and as ninja I can say that is not so bad to get kill I just killed who enter "my zone" for following one of my focus fired ally and meanwhile killing drones.
I have to understand if melee has really some kind of problem or they say it because they is acting in the wrong way in this content :/

[Houston009]

I don't understand the BLM LB fix. I rarely see it kill anyone on my team. It only takes me one GCD for me to heal through it and it's so slow I don't know how you get hit with more than one even if you are CC'd. But I guess we can't expect the lemmings (melee) to move out of aoe either as they charge head first into the zerg.

Not hard to time LBs at the same time on top of CC'd targets, especially with VOIP. Get tons of kills with my co-caster with double lb (at the same time), its totally fair. I don't even have to be close to perform it. SE please keep this totally balanced system.

[Logo]

Mmm I noticed a LOT of BLM in Slaughter mode, expecially in the 72 men version, up to me there they really rule cause of lag (you won't be able to dodge any Cometeor) and using Flare during node is really a easy mode to get random kills, get a buf and repeat to get more buff.

But to be honest I noticed more than a time a brainless play from my enemies, like following you in the middle of your alliance even a tank can't survive, I tried lot of classes and as ninja I can say that is not so bad to get kill I just killed who enter "my zone" for following one of my focus fired ally and meanwhile killing drones.
I have to understand if melee has really some kind of problem or they say it because they is acting in the wrong way in this content :/

Sorry but if you sort by damage and kills and the top 8-20 are all the same class.
you know you have an imbalance happening.

[Atreus]

The more I think about it, the more I think the real issue with Slaughter is three teams at the top. There are a lot of tools available to promote aggression for tanks and melee, but it's hard to slam into a team with your melee without team #3 just waiting to scavenge the free table scraps. That's why right now it's such a huge bait & stomp game.

[Kinseykinz]

The more I think about it, the more I think the real issue with Slaughter is three teams at the top. There are a lot of tools available to promote aggression for tanks and melee, but it's hard to slam into a team with your melee without team #3 just waiting to scavenge the free table scraps. That's why right now it's such a huge bait & stomp game.

This is the crux of the issue. It's NOT actually that ranged in and of themselves are OP (if they were, they'd dominate Secure mode too). It's that the common stat. is cluster up as a team and then ranged dd the other teams. Which works in Ranged DD's favor 2 fold. 1. They are protected by the wall of their teammates around them and 2, their AoE's/AoE spreading moves work best against teams that are also clustered. Basically, all SE'd need to do is make the middle less important, and side-nodes far more important (i mean they gave us the cool teles and we use them 1-3 times...maybe a fight). Make it so teams have reason to spread and a lot of this is solved.

[Domira]

Slaughter mode should be removed until its mechanics are fixed and relatively balanced.

[TetsuyaHikari]

Having individual limit breaks was a good idea so everyone could be allowed to contribute rather than leaving it in the hands of one individual in your alliance. However, Slaughter itself is just so incredibly unbalanced right now, a lot of us aren't even able to take advantage of this new feature. As it stands, I've played a little over 20 Slaughter matches and have lost all but one of them to Flames for coming in with full BLM/SMN/WHM groups (90%+ caster parties, basically).

The one time I did actually win... It was because the other groups had more melee DPS than we did and our alliances mostly consisted of BLM/SMN instead that time. It's painfully clear what job(s) Slaughter caters to right now. So, unless you're in an alliance that's basically taking rotations with:

sleep, LB, sleep, LB, sleep, LB

You're on the losing end, getting hit by all of this, and dying repeatedly because of it.

[Evangela]

people should be able to play the job they prefer or the job they can play the best, not choosing to play it because it has the biggest advantage. if people have to choose the job with the latter reason then it means the game is imbalanced.

[rowrow]

I just wanna play top tier.