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  1. #11
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    Dragoon4life's Avatar
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    Drako Redwyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    Yesss.

    This was my biggest turn off to the atma books. I can spam dungeons. I do it anyway. I can slap some monster around, sure. Kinda easy, even when you're camping the same monsters as someone else (could just party up with them and knock it out for both without worrying about who gets the cred).

    But the fates.... besides the redundancy of the books themselves (I hate repeating myself numerous times), this is a good portion of the reason why I stopped doing the books - and now just use the yagrush.
    I see more Solidary, Shiva Ex and a sprinkle of Coil Weapons now more then ever. This trend will continue due to the enormous amount of time and RNG required. Alexandrite and Light Farming is really boring and long.

    And Now there expensive like really expensive. 400,000 Gil 6400 Sol 40,000 GC Seals. And Require high lv Desynthing and Crafting which will cost more Gil if you don't DIY.
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  2. #12
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    Drako Redwyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koenignovi View Post
    To me, the fates haven't been the problem for Animus books. It's been the books all together. I play casually and would rather be given a few(2-3) books and do a lot through each book instead of more(9) books and doing a little through each book. I find it frustrating to constantly farm tombs to throw them at books when I could be using them for something else.
    I agree on less Books. 1 for each stat
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  3. #13
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I'd rather that the Fate part of the books be something like "Get Gold in 10 unique fates in (zone)." That way, you couldn't spam the same Fate 10 times and you have to fully participate, but it can be any 10 Fates. It would still take a while, but probably not as long as it takes for most of the book Fates to spawn at their current rate.
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  4. #14
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    Geryth Drayfore
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I think fates that are tied to objectives and quests such as books should be launchable by the person who has to do the objective, similar to launching a leve-quest. Take this waiting bull-crap completely out of the equation. I waited 1 hour before having to get off for Giant Steps in Coerthas and then the next night 2.5 hours before it showed up. I spent over 3 hours sitting in Coerthas doing absolutely nothing but waiting for a fate to spawn. That is not a fun way to spend time playing this game.
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  5. #15
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    Aurora-Pendragon's Avatar
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    Ghanima Leternelle
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Animus weapon requieres a LOT of things just for an ilvl 100 weapon. I've been 50 PLD for a little more than a month now and just finished my animus a couple of days ago... but I already got the 110 burtang and noct shield the day I turned 50.
    Now I need to farm alexandrites to get a 110 weapon relic. Which is what? Another month of grinding? For a weapon I already have since day 1 ?
    That's just ridiculous.

    SE should shorten all the useless part of animus books, such as FATEs. They did something really great for atma, since I was able to get my 12 in a couple of hours only. Now they need to do the same thing for animus. For Novus, there's no time gate since you can farm memo non stop, but still... 75 alex for an outdated weapon is just too long for absolutly nothing.
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  6. #16
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    Tahlato Dakwhil
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    Malboro
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    Armorer Lv 57
    I like the way it is right now. It's only maybe 4 fates out of the 10 books that give you trouble with time. The entire process is a grind, and I don't mind the wait.

    I'm working on my First Animus for my Warrior and well when it's done, I will feel great about it.

    -Tari
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    I am a winner, even though I sometimes fail.

  7. #17
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    Saseal Korei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoon4life View Post
    I see more Solidary, Shiva Ex and a sprinkle of Coil Weapons now more then ever. This trend will continue due to the enormous amount of time and RNG required. Alexandrite and Light Farming is really boring and long.

    And Now there expensive like really expensive. 400,000 Gil 6400 Sol 40,000 GC Seals. And Require high lv Desynthing and Crafting which will cost more Gil if you don't DIY.
    I'm starting to think that these weapons aren't for the casuals, but moreso for the masochists... =p
    I'm considered a casual, I guess? Or midway? ionno o_O (Raids <3, SCoB </3), but I'd rather throw myself into the pits of the EXs to farm the pieces for the Shiva weapons. At least I feel challenged, even if I'm not particularly ohemgeegood at those kinds of fights (IE, I'd rather fling myself at it until I know it). It's just a matter of working up the nerve, knowing I'd be going in with people who probably will be jerks about everything/anything. But I guess I'll take that over a seemingly infinite and expensive loop. >_>

    Which... I should probably take this relization as a kick in the ass to start doing the rest of the EX primals z_z
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    Last edited by Saseal; 01-20-2015 at 05:04 AM.

  8. #18
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    Drako's Avatar
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    Drako Lombardi
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    This subject just keeps coming up. Below is a reply I posted in the last thread we had about it. FATEs for daily hunt (and Animus books, etc.) still taking forever?
    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    2.15 The first time I believe they saw people were getting stressed by fates. And the response was actually really good. The beast tribe fates I believe would pop like all the freaking time after this patch. So I don't know why they didn't continue with this thought process.



    2.3



    2.35


    They made two other attempts to fix fates, and somehow still fell very short. They need to single out the fates that are taking the longest. Because there are a handful of fates that we always experience long delays. You know the ones.. They need to take those fates and put them on their own timer or something.

    Sense the same stressful situation is arising that they had to fix in 2.15 is occurring, you figured they'd want to fix it. The situation being, people hung up on the content, and cant go do anything else but waste a hour or two for such minimal reward.

    Maybe this is a opportunity. Maybe like how they added weather forecasters, they can put in some kind of forecaster for FATEs. You could check someone in town, or at a outpost that could say hey I think I saw this huge monster, and it might attack soon(10 mins) or I haven't seen any signs of it(just popped and will be a hour)
    There has been some effort in the past from SE to try fixing it. But it hasn't helped. I wouldn't be surprised if we see something about it this update. But if not, I recall Yoshi-P saying in a interview awhile back they have plans to phase out FATEs. I can't recall where it was, so I can't post the source. But when they do that, clearly they will have to make adjustments to that part of the relic quest.
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  9. #19
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    Alakazam's Avatar
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    Samson Belmont
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    Warrior Lv 80
    And change the freaking music. After hearing the same one over and over after grinding atma its killing me.Some variety at least. Also it annoys me when someone runs an enemy out and they go invulnerable for what seems like forever. I HAVE HATE ON IT STOP RUNNING. Then again this is from doing atma 3 times in a row, so meh.
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  10. #20
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    Midgardsormr
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    I actually STALLED on doing my BOOKS due the FATES only. So unreasonable to be waiting around for HOURS for a fate to pop. Ridiculous!
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