Idea against Undercutting at the Marketboard (The next.. )

[kiotsukete]

I understand that reading comprehension is not a common skill set here on these forums, but I did not know that simple mathematics, ie 1 gil is the same as a few, 25 or even 100 gil... Furthermore, neither of you are on my server/world... So your posts are pretty moot... (and yes I saw you state that I am not on your world so it was a stab back at you)<<<< That was moreso at the second person.

So the other poster and I were complaining about other buyers in general (not you to us specifically), but who do the same thing you do - buying the next lowest listing in a useless attempt to teach some stupid "lesson" against small undercutting. We are arguing the principle, that buying another seller's listing just because the undercut wasn't big enough in the buyer's opinion (whether 1, 5, or 100 gil w/e) is frustrating to the seller and ignorant of the buyer. It's called reading comprehension. You should learn it before whining about others' lack of it.

@kiotsukete I do camp the marketboard and see the 1gil undercutting war in action alot....

So what use is it to not to buy the lowest listing, then? There are few sellers who are innocent of such undercutting...

[Zedd702]

So the other poster and I were complaining about other buyers in general (not you to us specifically), but who do the same thing you do - buying the next lowest listing in a useless attempt to teach some stupid "lesson" against small undercutting. We are arguing the principle, that buying another seller's listing just because the undercut wasn't big enough in the buyer's opinion (whether 1, 5, or 100 gil w/e) is frustrating to the seller and ignorant of the buyer. It's called reading comprehension. You should learn it before whining about others' lack of it.

Firstly, I have no issue with reading comprehension. I was making a general statement, but I was stating you had more of a mathematics issue, because I was SPECIFICALLY pointing out 1 gil undercutting, not next lowest price. BIG difference with the two. Perhaps you should, read, re-read or re-re-read my post and work that tid bit out before calling anything ignorant when you did not understand my post in the first place... THAT's reading comprehension. OH and by the way, save the snappy flame for a nice set of firewood, not me...

And for the record the second person made a joke about referring directly to me about buyin x item because it was 100 gil difference, but yeh you get reading comprehension... right....

So what use is it to not to buy the lowest listing, then? There are few sellers who are innocent of such undercutting...

If it is a reasonable undercut as I tried to point out previously, then I will consider it. 1 gil undercutting is not a bargain so I pick what I want to pick. If you think it is a bargain, then you are delusional... Simple as that.

[Stihllodeing]

...snip... 1 gil undercutting is not a bargain so I pick what I want to pick. If you think it is a bargain, then you are delusional... Simple as that.

I would agree. I don't think anyone would say it is.

I am curious however as to why 1 gil undercutting is such a bad thing in your opinion. So bad in fact, you think they should be taught a lesson.

[Zedd702]

I would agree. I don't think anyone would say it is.

I am curious however as to why 1 gil undercutting is such a bad thing in your opinion. So bad in fact, you think they should be taught a lesson.

1gil under-cutting is an insult to the original seller, who might've taken their time to price the item properly and competitively, and then some jerk comes along to post their item without reasonable thought or competitive pricing for a quick sell. It's one thing to under-cut competitively by 500 gil or a margin that would make taxes less, but 1 gil under-cutting is a lot of things, but nothing positive in my eye...

It's like someone relabeling "Fruity Pebbles" and selling it a penny cheaper in a local store rather than what the knock-off brands do with a total rename and "competitive" pricing. A single penny does not make a difference in competitive pricing, thus I do not buy items that are marked 1 penny/gil less than the next seller for that reason. And if the original seller ends up doing what the offender does by under-cutting the under-cutter by 1 gil, that's called stooping to their level, and therefore you'd get caught in the crossfire and your item maybe the one left in the dust. Post your items competitively... That's my point.

[kiotsukete]

because I was SPECIFICALLY pointing out 1 gil undercutting, not next lowest price. BIG difference with the two. Perhaps you should, read, re-read or re-re-read my post and work that tid bit out before calling anything ignorant when you did not understand my post in the first place...

You are really not as smart as you apparently think you are, because I completely understand you have this unique, deep-seated psychological issue with 1 gil undercutting. But that's not what my argument is about. So get off your high horse.

My argument is that purposely buying the next lowest listing in a futile attempt to teach some kind of lesson is a stupid thing to do. So you won't buy from a seller who only undercuts by 1 gil. Someone else won't buy from a seller who only undercuts by 100 gil. Maybe someone else won't buy 1000 gil undercuts. Whatever, the amount of the undercut has no bearing on my argument whatsoever.

My problem isn't with you personally, but with this basic attitude that you, and others like you, have that "Because seller #1 didn't undercut big enough in my opinion, I'm going to buy from seller #2 to teach seller #1 a lesson to undercut bigger next time" that in my view is wrong and misguided - for reasons that have already been stated in this thread.

Anyway, since you are clearly always right, I'm not going to waste any more time with you. Have fun on your pointless crusade. Absolutely nothing will change because of it.

[Zedd702]

Nothing to really read here...

I began reading your post, but I stopped. It's nothing but a bunch of flaming because you don't like what I said. It's not about a high horse or proving who is smarter than the other person. Don't get mad at me because you are the one I am potentially calling out that most likely does the 1 gil undercutting, and I called out everything that you potentially do and you'd get caught in the cross fire for your silliness...

I don't know who pissed in your cheerios this morning, but if you expect me to read your post and take them serious, then make a point without all your bogus ass flaming and questioning my intelligence... Feel free to repost what you said in a more constructive way if you wish me to ACTUALLY read it and answer it with any real effort...

[Shadygrove]

I don't think anyone here knows that crashing a market, buying everything up, and reselling is a legitimate tactic.

I used to see it often in NQ Dezmal Tomatoes.

Having two characters, each with 3 retainers I could easily indulge in that kind of market manipulation but I don't.

I do scalp....

[Zedd702]

I don't think anyone here knows that crashing a market, buying everything up, and reselling is a legitimate tactic.

I used to see it often in NQ Dezmal Tomatoes.

Having two characters, each with 3 retainers I could easily indulge in that kind of market manipulation but I don't.

I do scalp....

And that is very strategic... I've done this in the past with rarer items that I post and someone tremendously undercuts me. I will buy the item and resell it for its actual listed price/value (from recent price history) on a different retainer and sometimes even under-cut my original product a bit to compensate for the immediate gil loss in purchasing the other item in the first place.