Can someone give me an in-depth explanation why Summoner is arguably the worst DPS?

[Tex_Mex]

In order to buff Summoner without affecting Scholar is for SE to decrease the cool down on Enkindle to 30s since it does the same damage as Fester and increase the pet damage by 20%.

So a 30 sec CD on enkindle AND a pet damage buff of 20% is extreme. I think there should be buffs, but that is too much. Remember that ifrit accounts for ~ 120 dps while auto attacking (i110 weapon), so a 20% buff is a 24 dps increase on its own. This is pretty big. Adding to that the enkindle CD reduction is too much. Plus it fails to address the sustainability issues that are the big issue.

I prefer a more subtle approach. Give fester a 50% chance to allow the next energy drain to cost no aetherflow stacks. This solves the sustainability issue while also providing marginally more dps. (5-10). Baby steps please. We do not need FoTM classes, just balanced ones

[Ardan]

So a 30 sec CD on enkindle AND a pet damage buff of 20% is extreme. I think there should be buffs, but that is too much. Remember that ifrit accounts for ~ 120 dps while auto attacking, so a 20% buff is a 24 dps increase on its own. This is pretty big. Adding to that the enkindle CD reduction is too much. Plus it fails to address the sustainability issues that are the big issue.

I prefer a more subtle approach. Give fester a 50% chance to allow the next energy drain to cost no aetherflow stacks. This solves the sustainability issue while also providing marginally more dps. (5-10). Baby steps please. We do not need FoTM classes, just balanced ones

Remember the golden rule when dealing with Akiza: Don't take him seriously.

[Akiza]

So a 30 sec CD on enkindle AND a pet damage buff of 20% is extreme. I think there should be buffs, but that is too much. Remember that ifrit accounts for ~ 120 dps while auto attacking (i110 weapon), so a 20% buff is a 24 dps increase on its own. This is pretty big. Adding to that the enkindle CD reduction is too much. Plus it fails to address the sustainability issues that are the big issue.

I prefer a more subtle approach. Give fester a 50% chance to allow the next energy drain to cost no aetherflow stacks. This solves the sustainability issue while also providing marginally more dps. (5-10). Baby steps please. We do not need FoTM classes, just balanced ones

More Mana won't do anything for the Summoner because they instantly lose 20% of their DPS after 4min and it rapodly declines even more after that. The problem is DoT is not built around sustained damage it's built around spike damage in the form of Aetherflow and Fester. Reducing the cool down on Enkindle and increasing the pet damage by 20% will be in increase of 54-75.6 DPS but it'll realistic be a flat DPS increase of 60 or = to increasing the pet damage by 27-33%.

[Tex_Mex]

More Mana won't do anything for the Summoner because they instantly lose 20% of their DPS after 4min and it rapodly declines even more after that. The problem is DoT is not built around sustained damage it's built around spike damage in the form of Aetherflow and Fester. Reducing the cool down on Enkindle and increasing the pet damage by 20% will be in increase of 54-75.6 DPS but it'll realistic be a flat DPS increase of 60.

The reason their DPS drops off after 4 minutes is because they run out of mana and are forced to energy drain instead of fester. More mana alleviates that problem entirely, since you can spend your aetherflows on festers instead of energy drains. Oh ya, I was told earlier not to take you seriously. Got it.

[Sleigh]

The reason their DPS drops off after 4 minutes is because they run out of mana and are forced to energy drain instead of fester. More mana alleviates that problem entirely, since you can spend your aetherflows on festers instead of energy drains. Oh ya, I was told earlier not to take you seriously. Got it.

It's actually because Rouse + Spur come up at that point and you have nothing strong after that except for Enkindle (which is best throttled until the next Rouse + Spur unless you can attack multiple targets with it in this window) until the next RS, which is 6 minutes in (where SMN is very strong again CD wise, RS + Aetherflow stacks + Contagion + Rouse + Spur + throttled Enkindle, but MP issues).

Although yes I do agree with you, SMN damage is more or less okay. A small boost would be nice, nothing major needed. It just needs to be able to put it out 100% in a real fight.