Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
most likely once jobs come out though, just by selecting jobs you will get a clear advantage in a role, and it will limit cross classing, soooo the advantage will be comparitively lower.
The way that last part was worded makes me think I might not be clear on what your thinking is here. But if I do understand you right, you are saying that Jobs will provide roles which will give a better advantage than the class that Job comes from in a role. However, due to it limiting the ability to cross-class, its advantage will be lower compared to super cross-classers that build a role. Am I reading you right?

If I am, then i disagree particularly with that last part. I think it will be subjective/situational. There will be some situations where diversity is more favored, but there will be others where a clear focus will be better, and then again there could also be situations where cross-classers and jobers (yea i said it, lol jobers) would work well together.

I did this earlier in the thread but I will restate it. This is the way I see it breaking down:

Normal GLA = Good Tank.
This will be good for more casual content, but might provide challenges to a person that wants to do Dungeons and what not.

Super Cross-Classing GLA = Good Tank but a lot more versatile.
These guys will be good for a lot a various content due to versatility but would probably fair better in things like Light Party dungeons (notice I am not saying low level or easy). These could be hard and require a lot more flexibility in the party members due to the limitation of 4 players. However, this does not mean they would not also be good in Full party content. I also believe super-cross classers will be the future of Low-manning content meant for more players. But this would not be due to them being so much more powerful than Jobs, but rather due to their VERSATILITY. The idea here is a jack of all trades (roles) but a master of none. This doesnt meant that they would be unaffective though. Here is a FFXI example:
You want to be a hybrid class so you chose Blue Mage. Blue Mage is a bad ass hybrid job, no arguing that. However, it doesnt compare to the sheer Nuking power or Black Mage, nor the sheer DDing capabilities of Samurai. So yes to powerful, yes to versatile, but still in any given role I'd guess about 90% as effective as a Job of similar role. This does not make them Broken nor gimp. They are still very powerful and versatile, but a Job will always be the best at A role.

Paladin GLA = THE Best Tank, but with little or no versatility.
Jobs will undoubtedly always be the best choice for a specific role. A super cross-classed GLA might still be a bad ass tank, but the Paladin will always be better at that role, IF that is all you need in a given situation. (Back to the example about a light party). In a light party of 3 super-cross classers and 1 Paladin, the Paladin will without a doubt be the best tank. However, that is all he/she wil be able to do and a light party or low-man situation might require more versatility due to the limitation/self-limitation of the situation. So Jobs = Master of a trade (role), but with no real ability outside of that.

No I'm not psychic, and Yoshi-P doesnt whisper to me in my dreams. However, the current direction of this game, and a few dev comments, and producers letters have more than hinted at this. I truly think that this is the general direction that clsses and jobs will take. Unfortunately, this does mean that 1 class alone and only 1 class will not be able to accomplish much. But you will either be able to cross-class or specialize in a Job. If they can ballance it right, it will likely just come down to a players personal choice. The last thing I want is that the Jobs end up making the cross-classers feel they HAVE to chose a Job. They did say that Full Party content will be tailored for Jobs, and that Light Party content would be tailored for Classes. If they can ballance it right though, I see no reason why it cant be mixed and matched according to what people want to do in a LS. I for instance only want to tank. I dont want to heal or DD or Nuke or buff/debuff. All I want to do is get hate and use defensive skills so I will definately be a Paladin. But I see no reason why I should only party with Jobers. You get a group of players to cover what needs to be covered (Job or no Job), and work a strategy around that.