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  1. #631
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    I'd also say most of these are BiS before Savage Coil; if there is a savage Final Coil, you'll want the vit from full i130 left side, so a BiS using all i130 will probably be better in that case (as you'll also have vit melds on the right side, or at least, 1 or 2 pieces)
    Most definitely. I was going to mention the VIT hit on them is fairly substantial, and should be accounted for.
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  2. #632
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    Lewena Yaeger
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    Quote Originally Posted by zlotjko View Post
    just a little update, managing now to do 515 on 3:50 dummy run.
    Using fracture but only when IR or B4B is up.
    Using Black Truffle and Str pot, thou yet to squize in Str pot in a way that it maximize its value (in opening during b4b and IR).
    I still feel am doing something wrong but 20 more dps then my previous best run is always a +
    TY guys <3
    Unless you were unlucky crits, it is possible you miss some auto attacks... I am ilvl 106 with a 110 soldiery weapon and the DPS of my auto attacks is already 130 on a 4 minutes fight. My crit rate was 20 % on auto attacks.
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  3. #633
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    Ghis Oda
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    Love!

    I honestly love you guys in this thread but the lot of you currently question my sanity with constant new updates!! So i had a few questions.

    First off: So with the new weights the crafted set pieces are actually BiS currently with of course perfect penta melds?

    Second: Finding a opener is such a pain especially for many situations you have to switch it up. But what is currently the top used opener that is efficient? My opener I frequently use is: PB>Demo>Snap>SNAP>Twin>DK>B4B>Boot>IR>True>Xpot(opt.)>Demo>ToD>Steel>Dk>Howl>Twin>snap.

    I feel i can get more~ with my current gear being at ilvl 116 i feel i can get more than 530-540 dps. Thinking about trying out the one Ossom Possom mentioned :
    PB > Snap > Internal Release (This is Key) > Snap > Blood 4 Blood > Demo > Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > ToD (This needs to go up asap) > Boot Shine > True Strike > Snap > Boot Shine > True Strike > (DK Buff will drop here) Demo (Demo will have Twin Snakes buff though) > Dragon Kick > Twin Snap

    Thanks for any information ^^
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  4. #634
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    Arzela Adrem
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaisaaVonFaust View Post

    Second: Finding a opener is such a pain especially for many situations you have to switch it up. But what is currently the top used opener that is efficient? My opener I frequently use is: PB>Demo>Snap>SNAP>Twin>DK>B4B>Boot>IR>True>Xpot(opt.)>Demo>ToD>Steel>Dk>Howl>Twin>snap.

    I feel i can get more~ with my current gear being at ilvl 116 i feel i can get more than 530-540 dps. Thinking about trying out the one Ossom Possom mentioned :
    PB > Snap > Internal Release (This is Key) > Snap > Blood 4 Blood > Demo > Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > ToD (This needs to go up asap) > Boot Shine > True Strike > Snap > Boot Shine > True Strike > (DK Buff will drop here) Demo (Demo will have Twin Snakes buff though) > Dragon Kick > Twin Snap

    Thanks for any information ^^
    I use same opener as you wrote up there.But now i am thinking about Ossom's opener also because it sounds good and it might be better than my usual opener.Can we get more information/tests about that ?
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  5. #635
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    Yukari Hana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klmor3463 View Post
    I use same opener as you wrote up there.But now i am thinking about Ossom's opener also because it sounds good and it might be better than my usual opener.Can we get more information/tests about that ?
    I was using also your same opener and Ossom's opener after some practicing is way superior, higher spike and good boost on sustained damage also due the cooldowns being ready at the right times
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  6. #636
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    Ghis Oda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    I was using also your same opener and Ossom's opener after some practicing is way superior, higher spike and good boost on sustained damage also due the cooldowns being ready at the right times
    This i just tested it myself with no outside buffs (food,pot,etc) with my normal open i was sitting at 525 with Ossoms i was sitting at 538 exact.
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  7. #637
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    Damaru Damasu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    The original rotation was:

    PB > Snap > B4B > Snap > IR > Demo > DK > TS > ToD > BS > True > Snap > BS > True > Demo

    The Updated rotation is

    PB > Snap > IR > Snap > B4B > Demo > DK > TS > ToD > BS > True > Snap > BS > True > Demo
    hmm gg I dont see this very often anymore
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  8. #638
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    Ossom Possom
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    Glad my rotation has helped you guys out a bit. I was beginning to question it myself as I wasn't exactly sure if IR was a bigger boost than B4B on the Demos. Unfortunately I can't parse myself so it's hard to tweak it. Only other thing I wanted to check was to see if doing Twin Snakes before the First Demolish was beneficial at all. But I doubt it would cause a huge DPS increase. It might allow you to get more B4B X IR Demos in later in the fight though, since B4B will start to get off CDs before Demos instead of after them.


    (PS: I keep Fantasing my char so my Thumbnail might look a little different every time I post XD lol)
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  9. #639
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    Odowla Wetae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post

    The Updated rotation is

    PB > Snap > IR > Snap > B4B > Demo > DK > TS > ToD > BS > True > Snap > BS > True > Demo
    I've been playing around with this. It's probably the most optimal opener you can get so far. My highest runs after 3:15 before using this was ~570, my highest with only a couple of attempts (and low crit runs!) was 585. It's definetly better.
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  10. #640
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    where is a good place to put xpot? whats a good sugggestion?
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