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  1. #621
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    Try not opening with S.Tackle and ToD, Evtrai. You're delying GL and buffed DoTs. Follow Ossom's opener, weaving in your oGCDs and let us know how you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by zlotjko View Post
    just a little update, managing now to do 515 on 3:50 dummy run.
    Using fracture but only when IR or B4B is up.
    Using Black Truffle and Str pot, thou yet to squize in Str pot in a way that it maximize its value (in opening during b4b and IR).
    I still feel am doing something wrong but 20 more dps then my previous best run is always a +
    TY guys <3
    It's extremely likely you're up to 515 from 495 because of the food and pot alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zlotjko View Post
    just a little update, managing now to do 515 on 3:50 dummy run.
    Using fracture but only when IR or B4B is up.
    Using Black Truffle and Str pot, thou yet to squize in Str pot in a way that it maximize its value (in opening during b4b and IR).
    I still feel am doing something wrong but 20 more dps then my previous best run is always a +
    TY guys <3
    Definitely getting closer to the mark. Just keep trying to tighten things up, and be willing to try some slightly different tactics with your rotations. Make sure when you are trying new things to give it a few parses before judging it unless it's just clearly not working. You have to get a pretty good sample size to account for crit fluctuations. ~4 minutes doesn't give the greatest sample size unfortunately. So more quality time with your dummy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    No, I meant autoattack would more likely be an issue with a controller. It's easy to miss autoattacks with a controller if you aren't using lockon or have adjusted controller settings to compensate for all the turning. Pretty common issue. I use keyboard/mouse myself so missing autoattacks doesn't really happen unless I'm leaving the boss. 28% is close, but seems just a little low. It's possible you are turning your camera just a touch too far when moving, but that wouldn't account for how low your total DPS is with an i135 weapon. It would seem something else is going wrong.
    the i120 one, but yeah still, I feel it's pretty low, gonna take into account however the opener suggested above and see how it goes, but I feel in the long run in sustained something might be wrong still.
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    Got bored yesterday and started toying around with crafted gear with the new weights Dervy provided. Found some interesting results.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OUKD
    Full i130 at 537 acc with Flint Caviar
    104.687 STR from secondaries
    388 STR from main stat on gear
    492.678 STR total from gear

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OXGO
    i130/crafted mix at 535 acc with Black Truffle
    128.34 STR from secondaries
    369 STR from main stat on gear
    497.34 STR total from gear

    -Edit
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OXGX
    i130/crafted mix at 536 acc with Flint Caviar
    128.396 STR from secondaries
    369 STR from main stat on gear
    497.396 STR total from gear

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OXH1
    i130/crafted mix at 539 acc with Flint Caviar
    136.028 STR from secondaries
    362 STR from main stat on gear
    498.028 STR total from gear
    -End edit

    Pretty interesting outcome. That's the best I've been able to come up with so far. Has anyone else found a materia layout that gives better results? Added another two sets using Flint Caviar and crafted.

    Here's the weights used for solving:
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Stat-Weights for 2.4/2.45 based on EMX's model:

    WD: 9.338
    STR: 1
    DET: 0.336
    CRT: 0.214
    SS: 0.206
    Another edit for a full i130 set that doesn't use Flint Caviar for people that it's out of the price range for:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OXH8
    Full i130 at 535 acc with Apkallu Omelette
    104.018 STR from secondaries
    388 STR from main stat on gear
    492.018 STR total from gear
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 12-20-2014 at 03:22 AM.

  5. #625
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    Well that last set is definetly better than the one that uses the Dreadwyrm Pants.. but much more expensive, since you need 3 penta melded pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    Well that last set is definetly better than the one that uses the Dreadwyrm Pants.. but much more expensive, since you need 3 penta melded pieces.
    Added another set that uses 4 crafted pieces, haha.

    Side note, the crafted belt is definitely the most desirable crafted piece since it's pretty close in total STR contribution to the Dreadwyrm belt while still having acc to open up other options. So if you only want to deal with crafting a single piece that's the one to go for, and then build out from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    Another edit for a full i130 set that doesn't use Flint Caviar for people that it's out of the price range for:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OXH8
    Full i130 at 535 acc with Apkallu Omelette
    104.018 STR from secondaries
    388 STR from main stat on gear
    492.018 STR total from gear
    Would it be worth it to switch the Belt/Food for 28 Det? Or is it a loss in STR?

    +28 DET
    +12 ACC

    -37 Crit
    -15 Speed


    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OXHK
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    Would it be worth it to switch the Belt/Food for 28 Det? Or is it a loss in STR?

    +28 DET
    +12 ACC

    -37 Crit
    -15 Speed


    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OXHK
    Switching to 28 DET over 37 Crit and 15 SkSp is a loss of 1.6 points of STR. 28 DET is worth more than 37 Crit though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treuhavik View Post
    Switching to 28 DET over 37 Crit and 15 SkSp is a loss of 1.6 points of STR.
    Thx for the calculations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    Added another set that uses 4 crafted pieces, haha.

    Side note, the crafted belt is definitely the most desirable crafted piece since it's pretty close in total STR contribution to the Dreadwyrm belt while still having acc to open up other options. So if you only want to deal with crafting a single piece that's the one to go for, and then build out from there.
    I'd also say most of these are BiS before Savage Coil; if there is a savage Final Coil, you'll want the vit from full i130 left side, so a BiS using all i130 will probably be better in that case (as you'll also have vit melds on the right side, or at least, 1 or 2 pieces)
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