Best standard WAR opener as MT?

[Ditto]

Do you use Tanking Accessories, DPS Accessories or i90 Ruby? Are you 30 in Strength or 30 in Vitality?

It's a little pretentious to say that it's an advanced opener. There isn't really a whole lot you can screw up on a rotation and the rotation isn't the only variable present here, hence why I'm trying to get a little more information on whether it works with full vitality gear. After all, enmity generation scales with strength.

Edit: I just had one of the DPS from the static I'm in do their normal open on a dummy doing the SE>BB opening, they didn't use Quelling Strikes, both of us were in comparable ilvl gear (his slightly higher), and I was in standard tank gear with 30 Vitality and they weren't even half my threat. I stand corrected.

I cant afford those crafted Strength accessories, so I stick with the standard vitality stuff. I'm also 30 Vit.

Also, I call it advanced because it's as advanced as weaving skills gets for a Warrior. You screw something up while doing it and it's possible you will lose aggro to someone. It can be used as more than just an opener as well, and be used throughout the whole fight every time unchained comes up as a burst. Even as the offtank during burn phases, though it'd probably be a good idea to swap our butchers block for a second storm, else you will probably rip off of the MT with that single butchers block.

Honestly I don't know if I'd even call it a 'rotation' at this point either, it's more of a burst opener.

[Sibyll]

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Well my most recent reference point is currently T12 picking up the adds. If I do anything less than a combo'd BB with at least Berserk and my DPS will rip aggro from me. And yea, it's very difficult to refer to anything a warrior does as a rotation, which is why I like it more than PLD. To be honest, I was really surprised how far ahead on the threat table I was. I had tried this opener back in maybe 2.1 or even before as there is obvious synergy in the skills, but I recall having aggro issues so just scrapped it as impractical.

If you spirit bind i70 and i90 gear yourself you can get the materia pretty cheap, but you'd need to be able to craft the spirit bond gear yourself for it to be practical. With the new i120/130 gear I was considering using a mix of DPS and Vit gear to get the same effect as the i90 crafted. The overall strength and vit gained I'd think would be higher, and a lot of the new Vit gear actually has Crit and Det on it. I need to actually get a spread sheet together to look at. My only concern is that I think on FCoB my healers would prefer a deeper health pool to some extra self heals and negligible parry reduction. However, I'm open to more insight on this if you have any.

[kensatsu]

your point is good here, with adds even on T7 i was doing a lot butcher, i even stack the rage and the 2 first skill of the butcher combo before the adds start to spawn, then i can pull directly with butcher, stun, inner beast, then a second butcher combo.
i din't got to have to use berserk on these, but i usualy stack skill and rage for adds spawn on coil.

DPS tend to burst directly these adds and healer tend also to heal when them spawn, you have to put a lot of aggro, it's not the same than pull a boss ^^

Still not see T12 to see if it's effective to do that way but i think it's the best way to pull a add (stack the combo and pull with butcher directly)

the use of the mix of the accesory can be good if your healer can heal, it's right, you need to test, if you die by using these you can switch accesories back, you need a lot of parry to have a better rate, if you have 500 it's still a good rate
when 110 craft accesories will be added it will be a better option, but 4 star craft is a pain, so expensive T_T