I'm disgusted with the bard nerf.

[Atomnium]

Why are you guys complaining in a super old thread?
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What's the worst though? people complaining on a 1 year old thread that got necro bumped or people complaining about BRD not being top dps?
Meanwhile BRD is what we call a "Key-Job" on FFXIV, it mean that BRD is mandatory for any end-game scenes and so... a BRD will always have a room in a static.

I'm kind of disappointed :x, you guys have the best movements, decent close to awesome dps, an incredible usefulness to a team, a nice aoe potency and welcome in any speed runs party.
...
Meanwhile, as a smn I'm on the edge of simply quitting the game because of terrible balance issues in fcob (t13)....... Shame on you.

[Maero]

Not to sound like a ass but you don't even have scoil gear on your bard.

Well our group is in second coil and not final coil (T8) and i go as either blm or Ninja and am one that would rather have team members get gear before i do,
besides that is not at all relevant to what i have said in which Bard is the easiest class to play.
How often does one need to cancel dps to move out of aoe and such as Bard?
This was not even part of the main discussion btw that op started, if at all i think Bard should have a slight buff, more so when playing Mage's Ballad

[LunarEmerald]

Black Mage is easier than bard in any fight with little to no movement. Because it's very easy to do high dps with them. A lot easier than bard and they never have to worry about running out of MP. Whereas a bard can easily starve themselves on TP if not handled properly.

[Quesse]

I would really disagree here, and it really doesn't make much sense considering the new Hawk's Eye is pretty much going to give all of our skills used during the buff 100% accuracy.

200 TP is an insane amount of TP to invest into a 10% evasion down.

Agree!

/wave

[Zephyranthes]

How about you actually read? Haven't seen any statement here saying that BRDs should be tweaked to be anywhere near the top DPS. We only ask that they consider tweaking it so that the DPS gap doesn't widen. Closing the disparity =/= elevate BRD to top/god DPS status please.

@Ooshima

Let's discuss this when it actually happens. Bards are still doing pretty well in Final Coil. No need to do anything now.

[Ooshima]

@Ooshima

Let's discuss this when it actually happens. Bards are still doing pretty well in Final Coil. No need to do anything now.

I'm not that kind of guy who forsees a problem, and wait until the problem happens before talking about a solution, sorry. The trend of BRD's WD and scaling have been observed for sometime already and it is showing that it is heading towards what we suspected, and we do not wish to see the trend continue any further.

BTW that quote you quoted is not replying to you in case you are mistaken

What's the worst though? people complaining on a 1 year old thread that got necro bumped or people complaining about BRD not being top dps?
Meanwhile BRD is what we call a "Key-Job" on FFXIV, it mean that BRD is mandatory for any end-game scenes and so... a BRD will always have a room in a static.

I'm kind of disappointed :x, you guys have the best movements, decent close to awesome dps, an incredible usefulness to a team, a nice aoe potency and welcome in any speed runs party.
...
Meanwhile, as a smn I'm on the edge of simply quitting the game because of terrible balance issues in fcob (t13)....... Shame on you.

BRD have BRD issues which is based on facts, SMNs have SMNs issues which is raised in another thread, people notice something and voice out their opinion. So what's your point? There are still SMN out there that clears T13 too right? So, shame on you too? Lel.

[Coatl]

Black Mage is easier than any class in any fight with little to no movement.

Fixed that for you. >.>

[RyuDragnier]

Agree!

/wave

As much as I hate responding to a simple agree response, this reminds me that I do think it's time they adjust Rain of Death. It's rarely used outside of Wide Volley procs due to the insane TP cost of 200 and worthless evasion drop (since nobody should be missing their attacks to begin with). Spamming Quick Nock or Wide Volley is already preferable to RoD and they cost 40-60 TP less than it. A drop to 170 TP would be a good change IMO...along with changing the evasion down to something better, like an Accuracy down so there's that miniscule chance of increasing dodges for everybody.

[Ooshima]

As much as I hate responding to a simple agree response, this reminds me that I do think it's time they adjust Rain of Death. It's rarely used outside of Wide Volley procs due to the insane TP cost of 200 and worthless evasion drop (since nobody should be missing their attacks to begin with). Spamming Quick Nock or Wide Volley is already preferable to RoD and they cost 40-60 TP less than it. A drop to 170 TP would be a good change IMO...along with changing the evasion down to something better, like an Accuracy down so there's that miniscule chance of increasing dodges for everybody.

IMO a low potency DoT when hit by Rain of Death sounds suitable, or a low 5% increased dmg vulnerability.

Would be helpful in clearing trash, maybe in coil, but even so I have to consider whether it is good to use given 200TP cost lol.

[Adormus]

or a low 5% increased dmg vulnerability.

For the love of everything, please no! 5% is in no way "low". That'd be an awesome group buff, which would just destroy the Bards personal DPS.