I'm disgusted with the bard nerf.

[Ooshima]

The above analysis should really only be done if there's at least some sort of math done to calculate the dps loss of a tp starved melee class.

Assuming dps loss of 30, your conclusion will be "ehhh the dps loss minimal, off with the bards!!".
Assuming dps loss of 150, your conclusion will be "that's alot of dps loss, bards are important!!".

So any math savvy min-maxing hardcore mathematician wanna help to calculate the theoretical dps loss over a 10 min fight for melee dpsers?

Sorry boss, I barely passed advanced math in tertiary education

Anyways I think people does get where I am pointing at, it doesn't probably need any major tweak either. I was probably just irked that they short changed our weapon damage increment by 1WD this patch.

And maybe do something about Rain of Death. The silly One Ilm Punch have a use in PvP, I wonder what use do we really have for Rain of Death's effect lol. I mean, people DO cap accuracy right (don't be bad )

[razzgrizz3]

this is kind of amusing with bard geting slapped like that.
you guys had the easiest class to play with unlimited mobility and no positional requirements.
its kind of...
fiting...

[kyuven]

one odd things i've noticed about rain of death that SLIGHTLY increases its value...but not by much...is that it has a wider radius than the other two AOEs. Granted that still doesn't fix that it's less efficient than wide volley and quick knock, but it's something.

[DreamWeaver]

And maybe do something about Rain of Death. The silly One Ilm Punch have a use in PvP, I wonder what use do we really have for Rain of Death's effect lol. I mean, people DO cap accuracy right (don't be bad )

Help in healer dps maybe? for free time such as T10's after all adds are dead, or T11's Nerve Gas time. But the 200 TP cost seems extremely steep to even consider using it, but that's the best I can come up with for usefulness of RoD.

[ServerCollaps]

they just "nerfed" bard with 2.45, by increasing the tp consumption of ninja they just force bards in ninja setups to play paeon again
ninja isnt the cls which suffers under the increased tp cost, bards are

so basically bard + ninja got nerfed while drg got a buff

[LunarEmerald]

Rain of Death has a long animation. Anytime you use it, you're greatly reducing your aoe dps.

Not only does continually using quick knock let you substain aoe damage longer, you'll do damage quicker because quick knock is a fast skill.

It's kind of surprising how much aoe damage a bard can do with all your buffs up and spamming quick knock.

[DreamWeaver]

TIL that RoD animation is longer than the 2.5 GCD if what you say is true o.o

[Jaykos]

Rain of Death has a long animation. Anytime you use it, you're greatly reducing your aoe dps.

Not only does continually using quick knock let you substain aoe damage longer, you'll do damage quicker because quick knock is a fast skill.

It's kind of surprising how much aoe damage a bard can do with all your buffs up and spamming quick knock.

Not sure if serious...

[rappa]

I am raiding FCOB until turn 12. And rarely i use TP song in opposite as mage's ballad.

FCOB has interphase you can recover tp.

Turn 10 doing mechanics with tether and charge.
Turn 11 i use TP song between the boss is invulnerable and the adds don't spawn yet.
Turn 12 Waiting for Bennu to respawn at first time and the final phase when phoenix flies and use plumes.

So the ninja tp nerf is not a problem.

[Rose-Wild]

I am raiding FCOB until turn 12. And rarely i use TP song in opposite as mage's ballad.

FCOB has interphase you can recover tp.

Turn 10 doing mechanics with tether and charge.
Turn 11 i use TP song between the boss is invulnerable and the adds don't spawn yet.
Turn 12 Waiting for Bennu to respawn at first time and the final phase when phoenix flies and use plumes.

So the ninja tp nerf is not a problem.

I don't know how you can sustain that and you might not have a Monk in the group but i have to use Army's in 10 always atleast once. T11 like a bit before the adds and t12 well same as you. T13 When p2 is starting i'm already almost out of tp and Invig is still not up and even if it was i know that i have to Sing anyway because the Invig tp won't last till p3.