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  1. #151
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    Lurkios's Avatar
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    Lyli Hanabira
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dagur View Post
    you still got a lot so i wouldn't worry just means you don't need to probably spam RoD anymore so guess what more DPS focus for you.
    More DPS focus for us... That IS the worry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Axlle10 View Post
    hmmm, ever think maybe this could be 10X better than -10% damage??? maybe it will give rise to evasion tanks being that much better? say i take 10000 damage over 1 minute. origional ROD reduced that to 9000, now with new rain of death, i would take 10000 damage, but instead i dodge 1500 damage or possibly more. In the end it isnt really a nerf per say. just a more based on luck change XD
    Enemy evasion, not your evasion. It does nothing for you as a tank.

    It's a very large nerf. We used to be able to mitigate 10% of an enemies damage. Now the enemy is 10% less likely to evade. When was the last time you missed at level 50?

    I'll be removing the skill from my hotbar, my macro for pulling Miqo'te tails has now taken priority over it. The TP cost is very high and the debuff is useless at higher levels. I'd say it could still be used in dungeon roulette, but since the skill is gained at level 45 we'd rarely have it available there anyway.
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    Last edited by Lurkios; 12-17-2013 at 09:50 AM.

  2. #152
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    lovebox's Avatar
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    uldah
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    Character
    Love Box
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    hopefully no more jobs get nerfed XD
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  3. #153
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    Marishi-Ten's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Marishi Ten
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dagur View Post
    funny thing is After a few wees no one will be raging anymore because they will have gotten over it and gotten use to the changes. also RoD was switched over to Warrior for mitigation, you got your high Dot dmg, your burst procs, your music. you still got a lot so i wouldn't worry just means you don't need to probably spam RoD anymore so guess what more DPS focus for you.
    What? Going from AOE to single target. The WAR will already be busy keeping hate and tanking and we are adding yet more to their plates by giving them a SINGLE TARGET damage debuff? If by switch over, you mean nerf, then yes.

    You're missing literally the ENTIRE point. This isn't about "super uber epeen 1337" damage. This is about the support role. BRD was designed (and meant to be) support. Support is not DD. We don't want to mindlessly spam 4 skills over and over. If I wanted that, I would have leveled a melee job.

    I don't WANT to be pure DD. I want to buff the party, debuff the mob, have the flexibility to change roles on the fly and be a contributing member of the party. We have Ballad and Requiem. That's it. Paeon is worthless and is barely worth mentioning. During non Coil runs, I use Swiftsong more than I use any other song. This is the state of BRD. We are a gimped RNG.

    With Rain Of Death, BRD's could contribute to the party as a whole and not just trying to outparse the next guy. Where is the party dynamic? Are we really just playing solo and killing the same mob? Where is the strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axlle10 View Post
    hmmm, ever think maybe this could be 10X better than -10% damage??? maybe it will give rise to evasion tanks being that much better? say i take 10000 damage over 1 minute. origional ROD reduced that to 9000, now with new rain of death, i would take 10000 damage, but instead i dodge 1500 damage or possibly more. In the end it isnt really a nerf per say. just a more based on luck change XD
    You misinterpret the debuff. It's evasion down on the enemy (like level 50's miss so much we need evasion down) and not evasion up on the party. It's rubbing salt in an open wound.

    Let's all be the same and have the same party make ups, same gear, same hotbar layouts, same strategies, and same cross abilities! Because being generic and mindlessly hitting 4 keys is totally what I'm going for.

    Make no mistake, this isn't progress. This is 3 steps back from the direction BRD should be going. We want choices, not forced into a narrow role being dictated to.
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  4. #154
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    Wishles's Avatar
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    Hope Aeterna
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Months later, bards are the lowest DPS in the game. Ballad and Paeon still penalizes -20% damage to bards for singing for the party. This penalty should be removed. Bards should not be penalized for singing. We should also think about restoring BfB and IR to their original value.

    Let's revisit this with the buffs to black mages and dragoons.
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  5. #155
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    Yukiba's Avatar
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    E'rock Lledo
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Let's not and say we did.
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  6. #156
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    Aegis's Avatar
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Balmung
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    Armorer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiba View Post
    Let's not and say we did.
    Months? It's been almost exactly a year
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  7. #157
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    Hyunckel's Avatar
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    Hyunckel Xanadu
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Wishles View Post
    Months later,

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  8. #158
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    Garlyle's Avatar
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wishles View Post
    Months later, bards are the lowest DPS in the game.
    I'm pretty sure that's how it's intended to be.
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  9. #159
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    Barboron's Avatar
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    Bar Boron
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 80
    If you play well, you should be doing good DPS regardless of which of the DPS jobs you are playing. Except SMN, they suck.
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  10. #160
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    Amazon Dotcom
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    Leviathan
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    If you play well, you should be doing good DPS regardless of which of the DPS jobs you are playing. Except SMN, they suck.
    Relative to other people playing the same job, sure. But playing one job well and another poorly does not make that job better than the other. There will always be jobs that do more damage than others, regardless of how well you play it.
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