I'm disgusted with the bard nerf.

[Nikoshae]

As a Bard I find the nerfs ... well, expected. I'll deal. Bards are one of the best if not the best at sustained DPS, and are also one of the burstiest as well due to lucky Bloodletter procs. I continue to feel chagrin as Bards are continuously relegated to 'DPS with a few support skills' rather than the 'Support that does really good DPS' class I envisioned them to be upon initial interest in FFXIV, especially after the debuff from Rain of Death was changed.

I'm hoping they introduce a few new songs for Bards over time, and I would definitely love a quality of life change in the party screen to see everyone's TP aside from their mana. I never know when folks are low on TP, and I'm not about to Army's Paeon at some random person's behest if I cannot see they truly need it.

[Lurkios]

The Bard nerf, to put it kindly, was poorly thought out. I'd guess part of the problem is that they haven't decided what exactly a Bard is. The call us support, though we have very little in the way of "support" abilities and nearly all of them are cross-class, not job. Then the nerf comes and we lose a massive support ability, and a bit of dps, while gaining nothing of value.

I mean, the content is cool, but SE... ya'all wanna load up Matlab and take a look at what you're doing before you go throwing random numbers around? You already know your random generator is busted, stop relying on it.

[Dagur]

funny thing is After a few wees no one will be raging anymore because they will have gotten over it and gotten use to the changes. also RoD was switched over to Warrior for mitigation, you got your high Dot dmg, your burst procs, your music. you still got a lot so i wouldn't worry just means you don't need to probably spam RoD anymore so guess what more DPS focus for you.

[Lurkios]

you still got a lot so i wouldn't worry just means you don't need to probably spam RoD anymore so guess what more DPS focus for you.

More DPS focus for us... That IS the worry.

hmmm, ever think maybe this could be 10X better than -10% damage??? maybe it will give rise to evasion tanks being that much better? say i take 10000 damage over 1 minute. origional ROD reduced that to 9000, now with new rain of death, i would take 10000 damage, but instead i dodge 1500 damage or possibly more. In the end it isnt really a nerf per say. just a more based on luck change XD

Enemy evasion, not your evasion. It does nothing for you as a tank.

It's a very large nerf. We used to be able to mitigate 10% of an enemies damage. Now the enemy is 10% less likely to evade. When was the last time you missed at level 50?

I'll be removing the skill from my hotbar, my macro for pulling Miqo'te tails has now taken priority over it. The TP cost is very high and the debuff is useless at higher levels. I'd say it could still be used in dungeon roulette, but since the skill is gained at level 45 we'd rarely have it available there anyway.

[Xellos2099]

Yeah the nerf is.. comfusing, if they are we are too powerful in dps, bfb and raging got nerf... fine i can live with it. Rod made zero sense, if they want us to be in support role, we should be getting more ability, not losing them. Now thwe rod is so useless might as well remove it and give us something more useful for pt. I will never rest till I have an answer. As a customer I been through EVERY mean to get an answer.

[Axlle10]

hmmm, ever think maybe this could be 10X better than -10% damage??? maybe it will give rise to evasion tanks being that much better? say i take 10000 damage over 1 minute. origional ROD reduced that to 9000, now with new rain of death, i would take 10000 damage, but instead i dodge 1500 damage or possibly more. In the end it isnt really a nerf per say. just a more based on luck change XD

[Marishi-Ten]

funny thing is After a few wees no one will be raging anymore because they will have gotten over it and gotten use to the changes. also RoD was switched over to Warrior for mitigation, you got your high Dot dmg, your burst procs, your music. you still got a lot so i wouldn't worry just means you don't need to probably spam RoD anymore so guess what more DPS focus for you.

What? Going from AOE to single target. The WAR will already be busy keeping hate and tanking and we are adding yet more to their plates by giving them a SINGLE TARGET damage debuff? If by switch over, you mean nerf, then yes.

You're missing literally the ENTIRE point. This isn't about "super uber epeen 1337" damage. This is about the support role. BRD was designed (and meant to be) support. Support is not DD. We don't want to mindlessly spam 4 skills over and over. If I wanted that, I would have leveled a melee job.

I don't WANT to be pure DD. I want to buff the party, debuff the mob, have the flexibility to change roles on the fly and be a contributing member of the party. We have Ballad and Requiem. That's it. Paeon is worthless and is barely worth mentioning. During non Coil runs, I use Swiftsong more than I use any other song. This is the state of BRD. We are a gimped RNG.

With Rain Of Death, BRD's could contribute to the party as a whole and not just trying to outparse the next guy. Where is the party dynamic? Are we really just playing solo and killing the same mob? Where is the strategy?

hmmm, ever think maybe this could be 10X better than -10% damage??? maybe it will give rise to evasion tanks being that much better? say i take 10000 damage over 1 minute. origional ROD reduced that to 9000, now with new rain of death, i would take 10000 damage, but instead i dodge 1500 damage or possibly more. In the end it isnt really a nerf per say. just a more based on luck change XD

You misinterpret the debuff. It's evasion down on the enemy (like level 50's miss so much we need evasion down) and not evasion up on the party. It's rubbing salt in an open wound.

Let's all be the same and have the same party make ups, same gear, same hotbar layouts, same strategies, and same cross abilities! Because being generic and mindlessly hitting 4 keys is totally what I'm going for.

Make no mistake, this isn't progress. This is 3 steps back from the direction BRD should be going. We want choices, not forced into a narrow role being dictated to.

[lovebox]

hopefully no more jobs get nerfed XD

[Wishles]

Months later, bards are the lowest DPS in the game. Ballad and Paeon still penalizes -20% damage to bards for singing for the party. This penalty should be removed. Bards should not be penalized for singing. We should also think about restoring BfB and IR to their original value.

Let's revisit this with the buffs to black mages and dragoons.

[Hyunckel]

Months later,