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  1. #131
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    WhaleBiologist's Avatar
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    Sol Lothaire
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    As both a PLD tank and an occasional BRD, this upsets me more as a Paladin.

    Either I get shafted for warrior tanks who now actually offer something to the whole raid that I cannot, or my regular group continues to run with our two PLD tanks and we now have to cope with an additional 10% damage - does the warrior's new skill stack with the rage of halone strength debuff? My gut says that it will.

    As a bard, this irks me because I wanted to play a support class - I switched to PLD once it became apparent than bard was just ranged dps with some utility, rather than the other way around. Bard is already woefully boring and this is another nail in what I feel is the classes coffin.
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  2. #132
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    Yoruichi4478's Avatar
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    Kya Purrcy
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    You can thank all those who complained about brd in the first place. Do ppl even realise the debuff we offered was aoe? Will wars be able to do the same aoe or will it be single target? gl on rooks with that single target debuff if it was put into a single target skill. Gl on Twintania's adds too.
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  3. #133
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    SirSaber's Avatar
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    Character
    Adelfia Balfegar
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    What did you guys expect ?

    The forums where full of complains about BRD now we got what we asked for eh?

    Our old RoD aoe got transfered to WAR's single target skill, all fun and games I say.
    Twintania is going to like these changes !

    Oh well what ever, we will have to re-adjust to these changes, as simple as that.
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  4. #134
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    Brahma's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ambrose Rex
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I don't worry over changes like this that come down to a difference of 10% or less... Bards I've played with mostly don't keep RoD up as much as I do, and even I don't keep it up constantly. I really only use it when there are 3 or more enemies, usually when I get a TP-free shot from that other AoE we have (yes, I know--I''m a terrible player). There's really no point in using it on a single or duo mob that will die quickly anyway. Now, in speed runs, yeah, it's useful, but you usually can't do that unless you have someone casting sleep anyway, eh? Either way, I'm not bothered.
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    Ambrose Rex :: Hyperion :: Alluring Embrace
    I wanna go out Dancing!

    BRD 70 | WHM 70 | PLD 70 | MNK 70 | SCH 70 | SMN 70 | NIN 70 | BLM 70 | WAR 70 | DRG 70 | MCH 70 | AST 70 | DRK 70 | RDM 70 | SAM 70
    ALC 70 | ARM 70 | BSM 70 | CRP 70 | CUL 70 | GSM 70 | LTW 70 | WVR 70 | BTN 70 | MNR 70 | FSH 70

  5. #135
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    Aegis's Avatar
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    Aegis Elisus
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Brahma View Post
    I don't worry over changes like this that come down to a difference of 10% or less... Bards I've played with mostly don't keep RoD up as much as I do, and even I don't keep it up constantly. I really only use it when there are 3 or more enemies, usually when I get a TP-free shot from that other AoE we have (yes, I know--I''m a terrible player). There's really no point in using it on a single or duo mob that will die quickly anyway. Now, in speed runs, yeah, it's useful, but you usually can't do that unless you have someone casting sleep anyway, eh? Either way, I'm not bothered.
    It's more to keep the big hits down. Think Titan or rage-moding ADS. The main theme of these adjustments seem to be making sure we can't nerf Bosses' big hits down to more manageable levels. No more virus rotations, no ROD etc.
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  6. #136
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    Awrini's Avatar
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    Factory
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    Character
    Awrini Bellato
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Me thinks fireballs might actually start to hurt again. .... might.
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  7. #137
    Player
    Brahma's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ambrose Rex
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    It's more to keep the big hits down. Think Titan or rage-moding ADS. The main theme of these adjustments seem to be making sure we can't nerf Bosses' big hits down to more manageable levels. No more virus rotations, no ROD etc.
    Ah, okay. No one has ever requested that of me, nor have I ever noticed anyone doing that. I rarely see a BRD using RoD during Titan. But, I am a 2.0 player, so I'm still learning. And, what you pointed out does make sense. I guess it doesn't matter now, though.
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    Ambrose Rex :: Hyperion :: Alluring Embrace
    I wanna go out Dancing!

    BRD 70 | WHM 70 | PLD 70 | MNK 70 | SCH 70 | SMN 70 | NIN 70 | BLM 70 | WAR 70 | DRG 70 | MCH 70 | AST 70 | DRK 70 | RDM 70 | SAM 70
    ALC 70 | ARM 70 | BSM 70 | CRP 70 | CUL 70 | GSM 70 | LTW 70 | WVR 70 | BTN 70 | MNR 70 | FSH 70

  8. #138
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    Yoruichi4478's Avatar
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    Character
    Kya Purrcy
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    I always used it in any primal I was brd on and in any content where we were facing any boss, especially coil. I would watch for Death Sentence and make sure the tank was covered with RoD before DS went off and I would use it when one of the 2 groups were going to be hit with fireballs. If I decided that at one point the tank was taking more dmg than I was comfortable with I would quickly hit RoD to help and continue with my dps and dots. True there were some who didn't use RoD and some who didn't even know what it did and wondered why I would use it on a single target when it was aoe but I would tell them why and what it did and they would say "that makes sense" and "I never thought of that".
    Now you can command warriors to do what we did as part of our job.
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  9. #139
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    Synestra's Avatar
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    Character
    Nel Synestra
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    Adding lets say +5% more DMG taken debuff to RoD would have made more sense imo, afterall the skill name is Rain of Death.
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  10. #140
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    Seraphita's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Seraphita Raziel
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Rain of Death = Rain of Fail.
    Bard just got boned.
    Guess I won't be using it much anymore...
    Thankfully it is just an alt and I didn't spend any myth on it yet. lol
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