I'm disgusted with the bard nerf.

[ChriZirhC]

our NIN has been burning a lot of TP after the nerf as his build was skillspeed and parsing somewhere around 550. Add huton to that and holy cow I became a tp bank. lol

but yeah I agree the margin is getting bigger. The only time I was able to maintain near optimum dps was t10. We dont need to change anything with our kit. Just more WD will do.

TP shouldn't be an issue because MNKs are still the primary TP sucker, if they don't need for a TP song I don't think NINs would need.

What I really think about BRD is that it could use some adjustment. I don't think it needs to be top DPS, it will probably still be the lowest DPS but at the very least, do something about the bloody WD on weapons and scaling. At least, maintain a reasonable gap right? Every other DPS job are getting 1 more WD than BRD for that 20 item level increase and if this continues the gap would be a runaway.

[Thistledown]

While I really don't mind my TP battery doing more of them cute damage done (/pet), I think BRD is already too popular a job to warrant a buff from what it is now.

SE doesn't want to see 3 BRD per full pt.

[dice137]

If I wanted to do major ranged DPS, I'd roll a SMN or a BLM. But I don't... so I'm not.

[UllrHellfire]

Even now can you say bard is a Support class with its little songs... it has.. and with the songs they do have... can we get oh Idk.. HP regen, or ones that hinder us even more once we sing lol

[Alyko]

List of songs bard needs:

Victory March (haste)
Valor Minuet (physical damage up)
Sentinel Scherzo (nullifies critically damaging attacks)
Massacre Elegy (slow)

[FateAudax]

List of songs bard needs:

Victory March (haste)
Valor Minuet (physical damage up)
Sentinel Scherzo (nullifies critically damaging attacks)
Massacre Elegy (slow)

I like this so much. Would make me a happy bard! Perhaps also a song for resistance up?

[lxChrisxl]

only way bard will get any kind of reasonable buff is if SE stops hating us for some reason which i don't see happening. maybe if dragoons complained about us not being support or too weak something might change. they seem to listen to them lately :l

[Clarkamite]

Can someone explain to me this idea of weapon damage not scaling properly on bard? I keep reading that all over the place but I have never heard of it until recently. What's going on with that?

EDIT: When I check the stats on their weapons it shows the weapon damage increasing with each successive increase in iLvl so I'm just confused as to what is being discussed as far as this stat not scaling as well with bards vs. other classes

[DoubleD]

Can someone explain to me this idea of weapon damage not scaling properly on bard? I keep reading that all over the place but I have never heard of it until recently. What's going on with that?

It has much lower base damage than the other dps jobs. Each time a higher Ilvl weapon comes out, the weapon damage increases. It increases higher for the other jobs. Too lazy to look up the real numbers, so for example if a Dragoons WD increases 5, the bards will only increase 3. With each patch, SE keeps on widening this gap to further unnecessarily nerf bards. For example, Dragoon WD will increase 8 next patch. Bard will only increase 5. Widening the gap from 2 to 3. Equal skill / Equal gear, a bard will not come close to out DPSing any other DPS job, so this is really just unnecessary and frustrating.

[Ooshima]

It has much lower base damage than the other dps jobs. Each time a higher Ilvl weapon comes out, the weapon damage increases. It increases higher for the other jobs. Too lazy to look up the real numbers, so for example if a Dragoons WD increases 5, the bards will only increase 3. With each patch, SE keeps on widening this gap to further unnecessarily nerf bards. For example, Dragoon WD will increase 8 next patch. Bard will only increase 5. Widening the gap from 2 to 3. Equal skill / Equal gear, a bard will not come close to out DPSing any other DPS job, so this is really just unnecessary and frustrating.

To be exact, specifically for this patch, every other DPS jobs weapon upgrade from IL110 to IL130 gets 1 more WD than BRD.