Keeper of The Lake 2.5 Dungeon

[Ilitsa]

They already did it twice, so....

oh? Please enlighten me? Fenrir? Not important in XIV lore. Siren? Wasn't all that big either. Diablos? Wasn't important either. So which "two" were "wasted"?

[Tupsi]

oh? Please enlighten me? Fenrir? Not important in XIV lore. Siren? Wasn't all that big either. Diablos? Wasn't important either. So which "two" were "wasted"?

You know it's hard to state that they weren't important when the storyline didn't even give a chance to be important. Did you know? Lore Wise Diabolos is much more important than the majority of the primals excluding Ramuh and Shiva?

You do know Diabolos is the main reason Amdapor Civilization is..basically gone right? Saying he's not important is like saying The Garleans aren't important to the storyline. The biggest issue with Yoshi's design is instances are their own little world separate from the actual world, which is why you probably think he wasn't important.

[Ilitsa]

You know it's hard to state that they weren't important when the storyline didn't even give a chance to be important. Did you know? Lore Wise Diabolos is much more important than the majority of the primals excluding Ramuh and Shiva?

You do know Diabolos is the main reason Amdapor Civilization is..basically gone right? Saying he's not important is like saying The Garleans aren't important to the storyline. The biggest issue with Yoshi's design is instances are their own little world separate from the actual world, which is why you probably think he wasn't important.

Siren served her role from the quest into the dungeon, she wasn't all that important in the scope of things overall. Diabolos, while I would have liked to see more from him, honestly, he was nothing more than a boss in a dungeon, they didn't make a bunch of stuff ingame hinting towards him being this huge badass that we'd have to fight or anything, so while he -could- have been important, potentially, no, he wasn't more important than the primals, who had a direct influence in the story of the game. Don't feign to know what I do or don't know about, because yes, I play this game for the lore. I'm simply saying there wasn't enough about either of them to have people claiming they were "wasted" as end-dungeon bosses.

[WellFooled]

I'm simply saying there wasn't enough about either of them to have people claiming they were "wasted" as end-dungeon bosses.

I think most people making the argument that those bosses were wasted are doing so based on their roles in Final Fantasy as a whole, not just the lore given to them in XIV. There are only a finite number of classic Final Fantasy summons, it seems a shame to use any of them for such minor roles, like what Fenir was given in Snowcloak or Catoblepas in Halatali.

Hopefully FFXIV will be supported for years, it seems wasteful to me for them to use up so many classic summons so early, with almost no story purpose.

[NoloeTazier]

Siren served her role from the quest into the dungeon, she wasn't all that important in the scope of things overall. Diabolos, while I would have liked to see more from him, honestly, he was nothing more than a boss in a dungeon, they didn't make a bunch of stuff ingame hinting towards him being this huge badass that we'd have to fight or anything, so while he -could- have been important, potentially, no, he wasn't more important than the primals, who had a direct influence in the story of the game. Don't feign to know what I do or don't know about, because yes, I play this game for the lore. I'm simply saying there wasn't enough about either of them to have people claiming they were "wasted" as end-dungeon bosses.

It's already confirmed that Diabolos will make a come back, Devs commented on it and he has a unique death animation (yes he's important in terms of Eorzean History and the War of the Magi). While Fenrir and Siren are stuck with the plain aetherial disbursement. Which makes them less special, there may be multiple Siren in the world if sailors can be believed with their tales of Sirens. For Fenrir there's not enough evidence to say much, personally I was hoping he would be tied into Menphina's Hound (yes Dalamud was called this, but why call a moon a hound, wolves howl "at" moons, etc guesses).

Edit: It'll be interesting to see how SE deals with Midgarsormr. Him coming back to life would give a lot of special properties to dragons, like himself and Nidhogg.