Keeper of The Lake 2.5 Dungeon

**Ultimatecalibur** · 12-12-2014 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf

Fenrir is PATHETICALLY EASY.

It's so sad.

That's partly the fault of how well players are geared right now in comparison to the dungeon.

Snowcloak is an i90 dungeon when the average player ilevel is between i100 and i115, Pharos Sirus was an i60 dungeon when the average players ilevel was between to i50 to i70.

**Nestama** · 12-12-2014 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

That's partly the fault of how well players are geared right now in comparison to the dungeon.

It's not because we're overgeared, it's because he's oversimplified (dodge AoE's, stand behind stalactite, repeat). Yeti and Wandil are harder than Fenrir.

Whereas Siren is: heal player inflicted with Deathly Verse to 100%, kill crawling zombies making their way to tank and healers, dodge Feral Lunge (difficult due to how large the arena is and how well she blends in with the crystals), remove the DoT from the tank, stand underneath Siren when she's casting Deathly Cadenza (if the tank gets hit by this, the healer can only focus on healing them and no one else), silence Lunatic Voice (used to be the cause of wipes, especially if two or more people were hit by Deathly Cadenza), face Siren away from the party as her regular attack is a cleave. She was a healers nightmare and I loved it.

**Yumi_umi** · 12-12-2014 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by CYoung187

Better have a new demon wall that is actually difficult!

Please.

Has thou forgotten ye old pre nerf amdapor keep df runs?

I would usually get over 5 join in progress slots for healer due to ppl rage quitting on demon wall cuz
1) dps too low
2) failing mechanics
3) derp moments
4) bees, just dem bees
" lb the left bee and we'll dps right"

Hope tht the new stuff/ boss can be of siren difficulty!

**BigPapaSmurf** · 12-12-2014 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

That's partly the fault of how well players are geared right now in comparison to the dungeon.

Snowcloak is an i90 dungeon when the average player ilevel is between i100 and i115, Pharos Sirus was an i60 dungeon when the average players ilevel was between to i50 to i70.

No, mechanically he's a joke.

You hide behind a crystal approx. 3 times & that's the whole fight.

Statistically, there's some merit there, but a lot of SE's dungeon boss mechanics are weak... 1-2 per often per boss.

WHEN WILL WE FINALLY GET EXTREME MODE DUNGEONS!!!

**Reiryuu** · 12-12-2014 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf

No, mechanically he's a joke.

You hide behind a crystal approx. 3 times & that's the whole fight.

Statistically, there's some merit there, but a lot of SE's dungeon boss mechanics are weak... 1-2 per often per boss.

WHEN WILL WE FINALLY GET EXTREME MODE DUNGEONS!!!

Personally, I'd rather have *new* dungeons with extreme mechanics rather than the same old dungeons with extreme mechanics, but maybe I'm just crazy...

**CYoung187** · 12-12-2014 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Has thou forgotten ye old pre nerf amdapor keep df runs?

I would usually get over 5 join in progress slots for healer due to ppl rage quitting on demon wall cuz
1) dps too low
2) failing mechanics
3) derp moments
4) bees, just dem bees
" lb the left bee and we'll dps right"

Hope tht the new stuff/ boss can be of siren difficulty!

The best part of the dungeon was that people failed it. Yes, please. Give us difficulty back.

**BigPapaSmurf** · 12-12-2014 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Reiryuu

Personally, I'd rather have *new* dungeons with extreme mechanics rather than the same old dungeons with extreme mechanics, but maybe I'm just crazy...

I'm okay with that. Put these ones in the past and Heavensward Dungeons offering multiple end-game difficulties.

As long as the option is there... tired of the jokishly easy 4-man's.

Yes, I know I can strip off my gear to the minimum ilvl but that does very little for a seasoned MMO'er... mechanically, they're all still very easy.

**Sove92** · 12-12-2014 09:38 AM

There is datamined dialogue for 2.5 cutscenes already. While the text is missing, the actors are there, Midgardsormr being one of them, suggesting that he's more than a dungeon boss (can see him being the 2.5 HM/EX trial fight). Can see this working like Snowcloak, a main story dungeon that you need to clear in order to make way for the main enemy, in this case, Midgardsormr.

**WellFooled** · 12-12-2014 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ilitsa

I'm simply saying there wasn't enough about either of them to have people claiming they were "wasted" as end-dungeon bosses.

I think most people making the argument that those bosses were wasted are doing so based on their roles in Final Fantasy as a whole, not just the lore given to them in XIV. There are only a finite number of classic Final Fantasy summons, it seems a shame to use any of them for such minor roles, like what Fenir was given in Snowcloak or Catoblepas in Halatali.

Hopefully FFXIV will be supported for years, it seems wasteful to me for them to use up so many classic summons so early, with almost no story purpose.

**Duuude007** · 12-12-2014 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by CUTS3R

No love for Toto Rak ?

The HM version for Toto Rak, Cutter's Cry, Darkhold and Aurum vale was in 1.0. Never to be spoken of again.

So sayeth the SE powers that be. Amen.

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