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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    ITT most people fail to understand underlying gameplay mechanics (and surprise surprise, you're still in welfare token gear).
    Ellatrix, no one cares what high level gear you have that they don't. Seriously, it's anything but exclusive. Not only is that completely irrelevant to the topic at hand, I'd expect a player of your caliber to know and understand that gear and skill are not relative of each other. And before you even TRY the argument that having the skill to get that gear makes it relative, plenty of people have pointed out the flaws in that statement in another thread.

    So seriously, just give it a rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    gear and skill are not relative of each other.
    So seriously, just give it a rest.
    This ^

    High Level gear will never make a bad player good. The most it will do is let them live long enough to be carried vs dieing in one hit from a mechanic and being left behind to rot.
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    Again you miss the point of the whole thread. There are intentional speed bumps placed in the new dungeons. "Going fast" != "Speed run".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    This ^

    High Level gear will never make a bad player good. The most it will do is let them live long enough to be carried vs dieing in one hit from a mechanic and being left behind to rot.
    Things said by people who have never set foot in coil. Someone in full HA is basically guaranteed to be a more skilled and experienced player than someone in full soldiery. But this is going off on a tangent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Someone in full HA is basically guaranteed to be a more skilled and experienced player than someone in full soldiery.
    Said by someone who is a self-admitted clear-seller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    Said by someone who is a self-admitted clear-seller.
    People are so jealous of those who know how to market their own skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    People are so jealous of those who know how to market their own skills.
    This is just laughable. Weak justification at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    This is just laughable. Weak justification at best.
    Gotta love how she totally missed the point of my statement too.
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    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post

    Things said by people who have never set foot in coil. Someone in full HA is basically guaranteed to be a more skilled and experienced player than someone in full soldiery. But this is going off on a tangent.
    Total BS. I've beaten T1-5 and T7. t6,8,and 9 I still have yet to beat. Synergy is the key to all raids. I can be the best raider all I want but If I got 7 scrubs with me, Regaurdless of their item levels, I'll never see the 1st blighted in t6 or 1st meteor in t9, heck scrub teams with no synergy OR over all skill is why it took me so long to beat T5. AF Gear? phfff I got 2 AF 1 sets with out even playing my class right. If I tryed that crap even in low level dungeons I'd get creemed. Sol and Poetics take time to win. Patences + Skill = Full Sol/Poetics gear.

    All you've proven is that you're an Elitist with a Raid Gear fetush. Some of the Raid Gear I've found in T7 was inferior to my Sol gear Stat wise so I know good and well what gear is good and what isn't. Here's a tip, Dreadwyrm Dragoon gear is not only Fugly but it's inferior to Auged Ironworks gear as well.
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    Last edited by Kaiser-Ace; 12-05-2014 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    Things said by people who have never set foot in coil. Someone in full HA is basically guaranteed to be a more skilled and experienced player than someone in full soldiery. But this is going off on a tangent.
    We farmed scob every week pre 2.4 and got to the point many drops went FFA to the party. I have quite a few HA DRG and caster gear from greed rolls, yet never really play them so I know I am not that good on those jobs. Yet Ive got the gear.

    If I went into a dung as DRG, I would fail miserably. I have the gear, But I dont have the practice.

    Aka having High Allagan isnt a certainty that the player can use that job effectively. But if you had cleared SCOB as much as you say, you would know that.
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    The point ------------->







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