Getting hit by others' enemy AoE while DoL gathering

[Fynlar]

Same way it's fair that monsters can knock you out of events/interactions due to being "under attack" - It's an intended part of the system. You can't control people harassing others because every time SE tries, people try to fight against the changes they make.

Difference is, when this happens you almost always can just immediately click and try it again.

Again, if this happens to you on an unspoiled/mooch, you have just lost a whole lot of time.

Happened once? No big deal. Same person doing it to you multiple times? Report for harassment.

With me, it hasn't actually been the same person doing it. It still happens extremely frequently, which is exactly why I made this thread. This is one of the biggest recurring issues for me that is getting me irked at other players, and like I said there is no reason for it to exist at all especially when it can potentially serve as such an easy means to grief other players.

[Its_Elodie]

I've been hit countless times by aoe from the sandworm fates in forgotten springs when going out to gather my daily map over there. Its kind of ridiculous having to start gathering with a blind status effect while having some enemy you didn't even touch aggro you. Its no fun either when you are trying to get one of those timed unspoiled nodes and someone is killing stuff or participating in a fate right on top of that same node. Unnecessary aggro while gathering is about as irritating as having a fate pop right where you are trying to gather something. Idc about harassment because there will always be in game trolls, but this shouldn't be able to happen in the first place. Aggro should just be for those who attack something as a battle class, not innocent gatherers just trying to gather something from a node. There should be immunity from it unless we decide to hit something or forget to use stealth when we need to.

[Jynx]

Man I remember when in games you would murder people gathering and take their goods.

Now people get upset if you get hit by a monster AOE. I get that it can be used to harass people but does this actually happen often intentionally?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Frequently? Is everyone on your server that oblivious or selfish when it comes to kiting? In all my times gathering as a miner, I rarely got interrupted by someone else's fights. The only thing I can say is if you are going to go for an unspoiled node, double check the area so there's no one around or just wait a minute before moving in.

[Fynlar]

Man I remember when in games you would murder people gathering and take their goods.

Yeah, which is exactly why I'm playing games like FFXI and FFXIV, and not any games like that anymore. The PK/looting aspect is no fun to me.

Now people get upset if you get hit by a monster AOE. I get that it can be used to harass people but does this actually happen often intentionally?

It is happening to me often, probably unintentionally. But whether intentionally or not, it should not be happening at all.

FFXI made this change a long while back where you generally would not be harmed by AoEs from enemies that did not have aggro on you or your party, and guess what? The game got a lot less irritating after that, as nearly everyone who got blown up by some other party's goblin bomb in the Kazham jungles could attest.

Frequently? Is everyone on your server that oblivious or selfish when it comes to kiting?

About 2-3 times a week in recent weeks for me.

It isn't really kiting, either. Most of the time, it's just someone running through the area, probably trying to get to a FATE or whatever, and they aggro things that immediately try to AoE them. It is happening to me most often at the North Shards with the hapalits, but lately it's been happening to me at a couple of unspoiled nodes too, and that's where it crossed the "enough is enough" threshold for me and this thread got made.

[melflomil]

Gatherers should not be immune to attacks.

[BobbinT]

Do you guys realize that all these pointless debates didn't matter since the act of interrupting someone's gathering with mob AOE caused by other's intentionally/unintentionally are still considered as grieve offense and reportable, right?

Think GM/Moderator already said so. So... whatever danger-excuse fiesta that anyone tries to defend, it's still wrong. Don't like it? Argue with GM.

If any of you still think it's ok to disrupt someone, how about me driving through your lawn in real world? Tell me if you're ok with that. You got yourself sense of danger, unless you're gonna complain, which makes you a hypocrite. lol

BTW, as far as I see in this game, there's no way a gatherer could get interrupted since they do have distance from any danger and has the hide skill too. It's definitely a grieve attack if someone did bring a mob AOE to your nose.

[Fynlar]

Gatherers should not be immune to attacks.

Except this isn't what I've been asking for.

Do you guys realize that all these pointless debates didn't matter since the act of interrupting someone's gathering with mob AOE caused by other's intentionally/unintentionally are still considered as grieve offense and reportable, right?

Yeah but the thing is, the majority of the time it probably really is an accident, because of how easily it happens.

I don't want to have to report every single person guilty of this. I just want it to stop happening.

BTW, as far as I see in this game, there's no way a gatherer could get interrupted since they do have distance from any danger and has the hide skill too.

Try it.

[Lyrinn]

It's pretty obvious from this thread who have DoLs at 50 and who don't.

[Backflippinbadger]

This has only ever been a problem for me once. WOuldn't mind not being hit but don't care much for it either.