Relics coming to an end?

[JonBigwood]

As it is called expansion, I suppose the previous content does not dissapear. New players, maybe with some changes, will start with level 1 classes with the existing quests, with new ones but not eliminating the old ones. Probably the relic quest will still exist, and all the upgrades. Why make playable content disappear?

Nowadays the relic quest can be done in a couple of days (compared with months one year ago), and the Zenith upgrade in a few days. The Atma, Animus and Novus still take time and work, but less than they did. Atmas drop is higher but still takes time. The books are much easier to buy but you still have to fulfil them. And Novus still needs the materia and Alexandrites. Nexus is still the last upgrade so it is still a very long grind.

Probably these last stages will be made easier somehow: atma and alexandrite drops, and nexus lights are easy to change, materia prices can go down maybe with retainers bringing a lot of materia, books made easier, etc. I don't think it is likely they will disappear completely, it is still content to do by new players, probably they just will make it easier so they don't take as many months as the original players needed and new players can eventually catch up.

I suppose the relics won't disappear and either will continue to get upgrades or will be substituted by some other quest that does not start from scratch but from the last relic step.

The image of the weapon I think just means there will be a relic upgrade after the Nexus, since it looks like a Curtana but is not the Curtana Nexus nor any previous one.

[MeiUshu]

Melding of weapons ??? maybe ? we can suppose everything at this stage !

Mei

[NoRyoKu]

If i have done all this work into 1 relic weapon only for glamour, i'm never gonna start another one EVER.

[AckersFury]

I'm allfor the new relic or whatever it'll be called in 3.0 lol
Imagine if they gated it behind the current relic? If they don't nerf it hardcore or completely just take it out/ make it not required, imagine how ppl will be like when they think oh... I have 7 more steps to do before i can start on the 3.0 relic chain.

Sure....hey you know what....lets just boost all new players to lvl 60 when the expac comes out, because, you know....we can't have them starting at lvl 1 and having to work there way up like everyone else has....better have max ilvl gear waiting for them in there mailbox aswell so they can just afk in Mor Dhona, because no one wants to actually earn anything, they just want it given to them....otherwise its...ya know....not fair....just LOL @ the current mmo generation of players...want everything for nothing....the later you are to an mmo, the more content there is to get through, that's how it is

[Ehayte]

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You're being short-sighted.

If you make it just as hard for the new player to do everything that previous existed, and make it just as time consuming and gate all the new stuff behind the old stuff, then you will just have generations of players that can't play with the previous generations. It would also take them super long to get anything accomplished because there will be no one else to do it with them because everyone else is on the new stuff.

You have to take the time sinks or old content out by nerfing it or creating a shortcut, or the new players will be perpetually behind the old players and they won't play beyond the 1st month because they would never be able to catch up and play with anyone else.

[Deathscythe343]

Sure....hey you know what....lets just boost all new players to lvl 60 when the expac comes out, because, you know....we can't have them starting at lvl 1 and having to work there way up like everyone else has....better have max ilvl gear waiting for them in there mailbox aswell so they can just afk in Mor Dhona, because no one wants to actually earn anything, they just want it given to them....otherwise its...ya know....not fair....just LOL @ the current mmo generation of players...want everything for nothing....the later you are to an mmo, the more content there is to get through, that's how it is

The old content is going to get nerfed. This is a fact of life. This is always how things happen in MMOs. They want people to move on to the newer content. To do so they will have to take steps to help push players to that goal.

Does this mean that the old totally upgraded relic will be required for the expansion relic? Not necessarily. Honestly, it would make things much easier if they didn't; for both the players and the development team.

Expect them to make changes across the board to the game to help struggling players and new players get to the expansion content quicker.

[Tribunus]

Sure....hey you know what....lets just boost all new players to lvl 60 when the expac comes out, because, you know....we can't have them starting at lvl 1 and having to work there way up like everyone else has....better have max ilvl gear waiting for them in there mailbox aswell so they can just afk in Mor Dhona, because no one wants to actually earn anything, they just want it given to them....otherwise its...ya know....not fair....just LOL @ the current mmo generation of players...want everything for nothing....the later you are to an mmo, the more content there is to get through, that's how it is

What a crybaby you are, why should lvl 50 content have any bearing on lvl 60 content from an expansion? The later you are to an mmo, the more older content becomes irrelevant, thats how it is.

[Deathscythe343]

The later you are to an mmo, the more older content becomes irrelevant, thats how it is.

I think that this is the reason why with, WoW for example, they tended to speed up leveling whenever they brought out a new expansion. Pretty sure when they raised the level cap to 60 they reduced the xp needed to get to 50. This way returning players, as well as new players, could get to the newest content as quickly as possible.

Another reason, is that with the new content means that the older areas will be less populated. Once the expansion comes out, how many people do you think will be in the starting areas? How many people do you think will be doing the low level dungeons? How many people do you think will be doing the relic quests?

I have no doubt that when the expansion comes out that the same thing will happen as when the game launched itself again. People will find the quickest way to level, it will still probably be fates, and they will flock to it by the masses in an attempt to get the the max level as soon as possible.

[Duuude007]

I think that this is the reason why with, WoW for example, they tended to speed up leveling whenever they brought out a new expansion. Pretty sure when they raised the level cap to 60 they reduced the xp needed to get to 50. This way returning players, as well as new players, could get to the newest content as quickly as possible.

Ppl can grind fates to 50 today... do you really want it easier than that?

[Deathscythe343]

Ppl can grind fates to 50 today... do you really want it easier than that?

It's not really about making it easier, but rather lessening the time it takes to do it.

And while people can do that today, it only becomes "fast" if there are a large amount of people doing it.

Consider the ninja release. People came out in droves to level their ninjas. Weeks later, at least on my server, those same areas that people were once crowding to level are pretty barren.

Likewise, there will be less people doing the low level dungeons, which will also make it harder for someone to level a class/job up. If less people are doing dungeons in that level range, the wait times go up.

This leaves people with a dilemma. If I want to level up x class/job and not enough people are doing fates to make the time invested worth it, and not enough people are queuing for dungeons in the level range that I am in, what do I do? I can do leves, but there are only so many of those. I can just grind on mobs, but that will take a significant amount of time. The longer it takes me to level up, the longer that I am not in the new content. The longer the I am behind for the new content.