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    Ophie-Mio's Avatar
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    Yoongi Mio
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    You cannot do Morbid Motivation without first obtaining at least one Relic Animus to unlock One Man's Trash. Alt relics should not enter a conversation of what playing the game is like for newbies.
    I was a newbie in April. My first lvl 50 job was bard and I got the animus for it. My Novus was for whm that I had saved up atma for from the original grind back when it was difficult. I was slow on the Atma book grind and got Alexandrite during. I didn't even get my Novus until the first few days of 2.4.
    So alt relics can come into play when speaking of newbies. What I have done isn't so crazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by cookiecutter View Post
    So Ophie its basically ok that SE does a hard reset on all gear including coil gear (which also takes awhile to get before its put into df) but, relic weapons should be the only exclusion to this rule?
    No, but expansions are expansions. They are made to expand upon the content already present not wipe it clean. People who begin the game for Heavensward will still need to get a Lvl.60 and still need the ilevel to go through content. They will see what others did and go through the coils if they want or pass it up (most will still go into it cause it's content). Coil gear will be easier obtainable ilevel by then and most will still go through it for the gear.
    I'm not even talking about what should and shouldn't be exclusive or what. Even if the grind included a quest line, it's whatever. What I'm saying is that wiping the slate clean on hard work is not the way to go with the new relics whatever they may be. Even taking the suggestion of doing a pre-step for it without a Nexus/Zodiac whatever it's called is better than telling us to our faces that our efforts will always be rewarded with nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by cookiecutter View Post
    Pretty sure SE wants all the new content to be accessible to new players without them having to backtrack through previous content to eventually caught up to the 2.0 players. I understand you all put a lot of time to get your relics but, SE has to cater to their bottom line and making the game completely accessible to new expansion players feeds into that.
    After the leveling is complete for these new players and they have to get whatever ilevel is required, they will be "backtracking." And SE catering exclusively to their brand-new expansion players won't help their numbers when it comes to the players who grind out the content consistently. If they make these relics irrelevant, they make the next ones so as well. Why grind if it will mean nothing?

    Quote Originally Posted by cookiecutter View Post
    That's the plan once 3.0 comes out. You don't have to complete coil to do endgame raiding in 3.0. So the same idea should be applied to relics as well.
    You don't have to complete coil to do endgame raiding in 3.0 but just to completely ignore older content is sad. This game honestly does not have enough content to actually justify skipping one just because it's old. What else you gonna do?
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    Last edited by Ophie-Mio; 11-26-2014 at 09:21 AM.