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    Rakashu's Avatar
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    I really do hope they come to an end. I like the idea of relics, but the problem is that they become the end all be all of end game weaponry, while other weapons that are out there or could be used as alternatives are put on the back burner. The same can be said for gear available that is collected with the allagan pieces - I don't mind it being there, but it becomes the entire focus point.

    The game suffers from a serious lack of creativity and choice for end game gear. Although I guess it can't be helped when you consider that weapon choices are limited to just one type based on the class; something I disagree with but fits into the setting of FF.
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakashu View Post
    I really do hope they come to an end. I like the idea of relics, but the problem is that they become the end all be all of end game weaponry, while other weapons that are out there or could be used as alternatives are put on the back burner. The same can be said for gear available that is collected with the allagan pieces - I don't mind it being there, but it becomes the entire focus point.

    The game suffers from a serious lack of creativity and choice for end game gear. Although I guess it can't be helped when you consider that weapon choices are limited to just one type based on the class; something I disagree with but fits into the setting of FF.
    Curious where you are in the relic weapon hunt? Do you have a Novus or Nexus?
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    abandoning the lv50 relic is one of the dumbest things they could possibly do and would just piss off a decent chunk of the playerbase tbh. they'll probably be upgradeable to lv60, with new/returning players either getting a ilvl 80 style quest to get the lv60 version, or a brand new weapon entirely.
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    Saori Kobayashi
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    I just hope that all the time ppl (as well me) put into the relics up to Nexus isn't for nothing. That would pretty much devestate me and I would question me why I even did it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazza2003 View Post
    I just hope that all the time ppl (as well me) put into the relics up to Nexus isn't for nothing. That would pretty much devestate me and I would question me why I even did it.
    If this is really the case, im done with this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicdeath View Post
    If this is really the case, im done with this game.
    Same. It would seal the deal on my unsubscription. It was also the nail in XI's coffin for me when they made AH trash superior to relic/mythic/emp. Sure they semi-fixed it ... eventually... sorta... but FF MMOs are waaaay too grindy to pull that kinda crap.

    Gear trivialization is fine if it's easy-come-easy-go... but when you grind hundreds of hours, if not more, on what's supposed to be the lore's ultimate weapon it is a massive slap to the face for that time to be flushed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarghaladion View Post
    Same. It would seal the deal on my unsubscription. It was also the nail in XI's coffin for me when they made AH trash superior to relic/mythic/emp. Sure they semi-fixed it ... eventually... sorta... but FF MMOs are waaaay too grindy to pull that kinda crap.

    Gear trivialization is fine if it's easy-come-easy-go... but when you grind hundreds of hours, if not more, on what's supposed to be the lore's ultimate weapon it is a massive slap to the face for that time to be flushed.
    IMO, you chose to grind it. What will be the difference if in fact they to include it in 3.0 but only enough to say... I see you got your <so and so> weapon. Please wait at the end of that long line over there for your next chance at your "Shiny New Toy"!

    What would the difference really be?

    Quitting over you *choosing* to grind something out as one of he paths to an end game weapon.... yeah lol. Have fun in your next game?

    But seriously... if you are going to rage quit over something so measly... that wasn't even required for you to do... why are you even still playing in the first place? Better yet, why even bother playing MMO's because most of them do the completely same thing. New stuff comes out. Old stuff becomes irrelevant and the pattern repeats in an endless cycle. Do you expect things from Year 1 XIV to really be relevant say... 2 years... 3 years... 5 years down the line? If you can't even imagine/entertain/accept the *possibility* that things can start over from scratch when FF stops being ARR and changes into the next story Heavensward... Just not sure what to say to you to be honest other than to have fun in whatever your next "MMO Fad" may be. I don't remotely claim to know anything, but I am at least open to new possibilities and anything at this point is pure speculation.

    Here you have the end of Tanaka's "vision" / "roadmap" for ARR and you have the start of Yoshi's "vision" / "roadmap" Heavensward.
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    eh. they might follow wow's 'gear reset every expansion'.

    Quote Originally Posted by atomicdeath View Post
    A relic quest line has no effect on accessibility of new content. The bottom line is, if they piss off their long time players, they will lose subs. Why the need to cheapen the relic any more than the quest gets nerfed with patches?
    you mean like coil? where almost everyone who can't clear cries for nerfs?
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    Last edited by Chokee; 11-26-2014 at 08:56 AM.

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    Arkine Vanrien
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    Who knows... Maybe Excalibur will just follow the same path Curtana did for the entirety of Heavensward.

    Excalibur > Zenith > Atma > Animus > Novus > Nexus.

    Then it'll take a new form in the next expansion.
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    Illyasviel Einzbern
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    Also the expense required for the materia to make Animus is entirely out of reach of any players who aren't hardcore gatherers or crafters. The Relic Animus weapon should be called the Relic Crafter weapon because only they can afford the materia required to make it.
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