Relics coming to an end?

[Firepower]

As a Novus owner (working towards Nexus and would have it by now if I didn't wait until ninja release to upgrade my MNK from animus to novus, I was holding all the Alexandrite and materia incase I liked ninja more.)

I would like to see them reset it all, perhaps make the final stage before expansion a nice glamour piece for the job. It's been a long grind and I don't intend on doing any of that again to just get to the start of the new expansion weapons and I think that would be what the majority would see. New jobs like DRK would never get relics because of the stupidly long grind just to get to the point where you can start your level 60 relic.

Perhaps continue along the path of slowly easing the difficulty of each stage every new patch and then when the entire questline from original relic - final piece at level 50 is almost trivial have it become a prerequisite to the next part of the new relic.

For instance we are currently at 2.4, 3.0 will be the expansion and the "end" of the current relic

In 2.4 Atma was made simpler
In 3.0 Animus books could be greatly reduced
in 3.1 General progression by this point should of made materia teir 1-3 extremely cheap and alexandrite easy to obtain (even perhaps sold by vendors?) Considering level 60 equipment might not even use it.
In 3.2 make light rewards bigger / target number smaller
In 3.3 make final stage/s easier
In 3.4 require New relic to be combined with old relic (fully upgraded).

This then doesn't remove all the work done by the previous generation and doesn't force a massive barrier to entry to newcomers to 60 as by 3.4 content will have matured and it will be a way to reinvigorate old content. Since the questline has been nerfed to something that can easily be obtained in a much more reasonable timescale it would take no longer than the usual single stage of relic grind. This would also allow people to add their Novus materia stats to the new relic.

[Stumpedify]

Atma isn't what I'm annoyed with, it's the materia for Novus.

As has already been mentioned, in 3.0 when the level cap increases, the rank IV materia will be widely available and easy to spiritbond, there will be new ranks above it for lv60. The prices will drop and doing the alex/material phase will be nothing, pocket change.

The only reason it's so bad atm is the difficulty and time required to farm IV materia. Supply and demand!

For instance we are currently at 2.4, 3.0 will be the expansion and the "end" of the current relic

In 2.4 Atma was made simpler
In 3.0 Animus books could be greatly reduced
in 3.1 General progression by this point should of made materia teir 1-3 extremely cheap and alexandrite easy to obtain (even perhaps sold by vendors?) Considering level 60 equipment might not even use it.
In 3.2 make light rewards bigger / target number smaller
In 3.3 make final stage/s easier
In 3.4 require New relic to be combined with old relic (fully upgraded).

You missed 2.5. That will be the big charity gear patch prior to the expansion coming out so that people can quickly gear up to i130 and be ready to play the expansion.


In 2.4 with the nerf of hunts they actually made it harder to do the animus books and alexandrite because it takes so much longer to get soldiery than it did myth prior to 2.4. And the majority of people not being interested in hunts atm makes it harder to hunt. But in 2.5 I'm sure that will change.

[Mature]

Do people really believe that SE is gonna dump and stop upgrading the relic once it reaches ilvl135?......... I do wonder why people creates this threads.....

[Riardon]

Do people really believe that SE is gonna dump and stop upgrading the relic once it reaches ilvl135?......... I do wonder why people creates this threads.....

Yes cause SE did not clarify what will happen with the Relic in 3.0 and their post in the dev blog made it seem like that was the final stage. And this is not religion it's a game which gets updates and we proceed with solid info and facts from the dev team not with blind faith.

[Craiger]

There is probably gonna be another line of relics in 3.0... The Zodiac weapons are finished when it's been upgraded to ilvl135(or whatever the highest ilvl will be). That doesn't mean we won't get another relic line starting 3.0...

Zodiac line begins with Atma, and Zenith is no a Zodiac, but you still need it to get Atma. Same thing is probably gonna happen in 3.0...

[JonBigwood]

It has been confirmed in the live letter that after the expansion, those who don't have bought the expansion will be able to be playing all the content that does not belong to the expansion as they did before.

So, most probably the relic quest and upgrades will still be there for the ones who want to do them. Only, the same as the relic quest used to take months one year ago and now can be easily done in two days, Zenith can be done now in a few days, all the rest of the upgrades will be made easier so that they take a reasonable time (super easy compared to when the upgrade was the last one.) They are already much easier, at least the atma part. The others can easily be made easier.

Probably either the relic quest goes on, or you need to have upgraded the relic to the top to start the new quest (which will take a very long time to fulfil at launch.) But the relic upgrade will be much much easier than it is now. The other option, in my opinion less probable, is that the top relic upgrade is not needed but gives some advantage for the new quest completion.

The last upgrade always takes a lot of time, the previous are made easier bit by bit.

[Maero]

Zenith weapon can be had in a hr or 2 or less actually at this moment, atma is still very much an annoyance.
The books are just so repetitive i wonder why i bothered to go for a 3rd Animus, lol

[Vorpal_Spork]

Why do new players need to catch up, the relic isn't the best weapon in the game, its a glorified glamour piece, that isn't how mmo's work, you can't just drag everyone back to zero so the new kids don't feel left out, that's idiotic...the players who were there from the start and who have put the work in deserve to be infront, nerf the past content down a bit for them, but don't serve them stuff on a freaking platter

Agreed. I'm a new player myself. I don't need pity relics handed to me. I'm working on my atmas for my white mage staff right now and I'm more than half way done. I'm catching up just fine on my own.

[Amused]

I disagree with the people that want a new relic for the expansion, and each expansion. I think it would be a poor idea and kill a lot of the incentive to pursue even building one up. I believe we should continue building upon the base(s) we started with.

[Velox]

The current relic has 2 distinct upgrades which consist of multiple steps for each. First you have Base Relic with a single step to upgrade it to maximum power (Zenith). Next you have Zodiac Base Relic (Atma) with multiple steps to upgrade it to maximum power (whatever 2.5 calls it).

This does not necessarily mean relics are coming to and end. What IS certain is that the Zodiac quest line is coming to the end. Relics may (and probably will) continue to get future upgrades post 2.5, just nothing related to the Zodiac Braves and the NPC Jalzhan.